Construction Technology Podcast - Episode 012 - with Josh from Roger

Episode summaryIn this episode we sit down with Josh to talk about why construction technology is so hard to get adopted on real projects, and what changed for him when he moved from selling a product to delivering value inside contractors' operations. We get into outcome-based pricing, the labor problem it addresses, and why a clear scope of work is worth more than most teams treat it as. Josh walks through how risk transfer varies across general contractors, the difference between how estimators and project managers write scope, and where AI fits in construction today versus where it's heading.TakeawaysConstruction technology usually fails on adoption, not capability. Getting a tool used on an active project is the hard part.Outcome-based pricing ties cost to delivered value, which makes it a fit for labor-driven problems.Risk transfer is not uniform across general contractors. Each one draws the line in a different place.A clear scope of work is one of the highest-leverage documents on a project, and most scope gaps trace back to it.AI adoption in construction is constrained by process and project complexity, not just the state of the technology.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Introductions07:05 Implementation and Adoption of Construction Technology13:29 Outcome-Based Pricing and Labor Solutions26:10 Scope Gaps and Outcome-Based Pricing33:06 The Spectrum of Risk Transfer in Construction38:26 Estimator vs. Project Manager in Scope Writing43:34 The Role of AI in Construction49:22 The Future of AI in Construction57:54 Challenges in AI AdoptionTakeawaysChallenges with adoption of construction technologyOutcome-based pricing and labor solutions Risk transfer varies among GCsScope clarity is crucial for valueAI adoption presents challengesChapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Introductions07:05 Implementation and Adoption of Construction Technology13:29 Outcome-Based Pricing and Labor Solutions26:10 Scope Gaps and Outcome-Based Pricing33:06 The Spectrum of Risk Transfer in Construction38:26 Estimator vs. Project Manager in Scope Writing43:34 The Role of AI in Construction49:22 The Future of AI in Construction57:54 Challenges in AI Adoption