Creating Content People Would Pay For with David Ebner, Content Workshop
from The Content Cocktail Hour Hosted by Jonathan Gandolf
“Our content should be worth someone’s time—and money,” says David Ebner, founder & CEO of Content Workshop In this episode of The Content Cocktail Hour, David J. Ebner, founder & CEO of Content Workshop, returns to chat with Jonathan Gandolf about the evolving expectations for content in a post-AI world. David shares why content should meet a new “threshold of value”—so good people would willingly pay for it—and explains how this mindset influences everything from newsletters to long-form assets. He also unpacks the tension between automation and authenticity, why “moral marketing” matters, and how brands can embrace SEO and backlinks even in a zero-click search environment. If you’re feeling stuck on the AI content hamster wheel, this episode offers a compelling case for slowing down and zigging when everyone else is zagging. In this episode, you’ll learn: How to create content that earns attention and trust Why brands should rethink the ROI of SEO and backlinks How to frame content creation as a moral decision, not just a metric Resources: Connect with Jonathan Gandolf on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-gandolf/ Explore AudiencePlus: https://audienceplus.com Connect with David Ebner on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidjebner Visit Content Workshop: https://contentworkshop.com Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (01:06) David’s background and the origin of Content Workshop (03:27) Ube mocktails and scaling back on drinking (04:01) Why content should be worth paying for (06:13) Valuing time and attention in the age of AI (08:21) The ROI of high-value content (09:57) Content libraries as recurring revenue assets (11:21) Real examples of premium content from David’s team (12:03) Give away the secret sauce (13:54) Standing out with quality, not just quantity (15:55) Why marketers must create with morality in mind (17:22) Who does your content help—and hurt? (20:54) David’s unpopular opinion: SEO still matters (22:24) Why backlinks are more important than ever (24:10) What generative engines reveal about good SEO (25:20) How to connect with David and Content Workshop
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