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EPISODE · Jun 30, 2025 · 31 MIN

Death by LLM, Judges Rule ‘Fair Use’, and Google’s AI Ad Fail: The AI Argument EP63

from The AI Argument · host Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery

Some of the world’s top AI models showed a willingness to let humans die if it meant staying switched on. In a stress test of 16 major systems, Anthropic found cases where models chose not to send emergency alerts, knowing the result would be fatal. Justin says the whole thing was a rigged theatre piece. No real-world relevance, just a clumsy setup with no good options for the LLM. The issue, in his view, is engineering, not ethics. Frank sees a bigger problem: once you give LLMs agentic capabilities, you can’t control the environments they end up in. And when amateur vibe coders build apps with no idea what they’re doing, then these kinds of unpredictable, messy scenarios aren’t rare, they’re inevitable.In other news, two U.S. courts just ruled that training AI on copyrighted books is fair use. A huge win for AI developers. But the judges didn’t agree on what matters most: transformation, or market harm? The decisions could set the tone for AI copyright law, and creative workers may not like what they hear.01:05 Will Google win the ASI race?05:56 Did Anthropic catch AI choosing murder? 15:23 Did the courts just say AI training is fair use?28:19 Is Google’s AI marketing team hallucinating?► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSEDAgentic Misalignment: How LLMs could be insider threatshttps://www.anthropic.com/research/agentic-misalignmentJudge rules Anthropic did not violate authors’ copyrights with AI book traininghttps://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/24/ai-training-books-anthropic.htmlMeta Wins Blockbuster AI Copyright Case—but There’s a Catchhttps://www.wired.com/story/meta-scores-victory-ai-copyright-case/Google's Latest AI Commercial Called Out for Hilarious AI Error: 'If Only Technology Existed To Research Facts'https://www.techtimes.com/articles/311053/20250626/googles-latest-ai-commercial-called-out-hilarious-ai-error-if-only-technology-existed-research.htm► CONNECT WITH USFor more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/► YOUR INPUTAre you worried about the age of agentic AI given that LLMs seem to have dubious morals?

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Some of the world’s top AI models showed a willingness to let humans die if it meant staying switched on. In a stress test of 16 major systems, Anthropic found cases where models chose not to send emergency alerts, knowing the result would be fatal. Justin says the whole thing was a rigged theatre piece. No real-world relevance, just a clumsy setup with no good options for the LLM. The issue, in his view, is engineering, not ethics. Frank sees a bigger problem: once you g...

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