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DEI Isn’t Enough; Companies Need Anti-Racist Leadership | HBR IdeaCast

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DEI Isn’t Enough; Companies Need Anti-Racist Leadership | HBR IdeaCast 8 Feb 2023 --- Over the past few years in the United States, we’ve seen some horrific examples of racism seize the public consciousness. Amid all these tragedies – and the protests that followed – U.S. business leaders promised they would do their part to fight the problem, making workplaces more diverse, equitable and inclusive. But now it’s time to go a step further, say James White and Krista White, father-and-daughter authors of the new book, Anti-Racist Leadership: How to Transform Corporate Culture in a Race-Conscious Worlds. They share their own experiences as Black Americans in the workplace and lessons from James’ time as CEO of Jamba Juice. And they offer advice on how corporate leaders can promote lasting change in their own organizations and society at large. This episode originally aired on HBR IdeaCast on March 15, 2022. Listen to more HBR IdeaCast episodes here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzAU8TPKsJuaxff5Cp0P2DKE_tFyaWOOa You can also listen to this episode on HBR.org, and wherever you listen to podcasts: - HBR.org (transcript available here): https://hbr.org/podcast/2022/03/dei-isnt-enough-companies-need-anti-racist-leadership - Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dei-isnt-enough-companies-need-anti-racist-leadership/id152022135?i=1000554091083 - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2ljUy6Z3enXgz3r4X6qh6c?si=fe9b9c8999384b56 - Stitcher https://listen.stitcher.com/yvap/?af_dp=stitcher://episode/201416601&af_web_dp=https://www.stitcher.com/episode/201416601&deep_link_value=stitcher://episode/201416601 - Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLmhhcnZhcmRidXNpbmVzcy5vcmcvaGFydmFyZGJ1c2luZXNzL2lkZWFjYXN0/episode/dGFnOmF1ZGlvLmhici5vcmcsMjAwNi0wNS0wODppZGVhY2FzdC4wODQ1?sa=X&ved=0CAIQuIEEahcKEwiQ9qqX94H9AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQLA Series Description: A weekly podcast featuring the leading thinkers in business and management. About Harvard Business Review: Harvard Business Review is the leading destination for smart management thinking. Through its flagship magazine, books, and digital content and tools published on HBR.org, Harvard Business Review aims to provide professionals around the world with rigorous insights and best practices to help lead themselves and their organizations more effectively and to make a positive impact. Learn more at www.hbr.org. Chapters: 00:00 – Intro 1:49 – James’ and Krista’s Careers Shaped Their Perspectives 5:03 – Making Spaces Welcoming for People of Color 8:07 – Defining Anti-Racist Leadership 9:55 – Why Leaders at Every Level Must Take Initiative 13:15 – Which Metrics Matter 18:18 - Younger Generations Making Permanent Change 23:06 – Encountering Resistance to Change 28:48 - Outro Follow Harvard Business Review: https://hbr.org/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/harv... https://www.facebook.com/HBR/ https://twitter.com/HarvardBiz https://www.instagram.com/harvard_bus... Sign up for Newsletters: https://hbr.org/email-newsletters #HarvardBusinessReview #business #management Copyright © 2022 Harvard Business School Publishing. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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