第3078期:New Yorkers seek to remove discriminatory statue

This statue of the 26th president of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt, who served from 1901 to 1909, depicts Roosevelt on horseback with a native American and a black man standing alongside him.这是美国第26任总统西奥多·罗斯福的雕像，他从1901年到1909年担任总统，雕塑中的罗斯福骑在马上，身旁站着一位美洲原住民和一位黑人。To those who object to it, the statue suggests colonialism and white supremacy.对那些反对它的人来说，这座雕像意味着殖民主义和白人至上主义。It is one of a few statues around New York that protestors want removed, including one of Christopher Columbus.这是纽约周边抗议者希望移除的少数雕像之一，其中包括克里斯托弗·哥伦布的雕像。Christopher Columbus being pedestalized and lionized like that is similar to Roosevelt being on a high horse.克里斯托弗·哥伦布被如此抬高和颂扬，这和罗斯福高高在上的情形类似。And just like he needs to come down off his high horse, we need to take Columbus off of his pedestal, because he doesn't represent what this land was once representative of. This was the island of Manhattan.正如罗斯福需要放下高傲的姿态一样，我们也得把哥伦布从神坛上拉下来，因为他并不代表这片土地曾经所代表的东西。这里曾是曼哈顿岛。I think a lot of people are offended by this because it's sort of like you know, we act like we discovered this country first.我觉得很多人对此感到不满，因为我们表现得好像是我们最先发现了这个国家。There were humans living here for thousands of years, so we didn't discover anything, we took it.几千年来一直有人类在这里生活，所以我们并未发现任何事物，我们只是将其占为己有。However, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, son of the late governor Mario Cuomo, who comes from a well-known New York Italian-American family wants the statue to stay.然而，纽约州州长安德鲁·科莫希望保留这座雕像，他是已故州长马里奥·科莫的儿子，来自纽约著名的意大利裔美国家族。I understand the feelings about Christopher Columbus and some of his acts which nobody would support.我理解人们对克里斯托弗·哥伦布的看法，也理解人们对其一些行为的态度，毕竟没人会支持那些行为。But the statue has come to represent and signify appreciation for the Italian-American contribution to New York.但这座雕像已逐渐象征着对意大利裔美国人对纽约所做贡献的感激之情。So on that, for that reason I supported. New Yorkers themselves, however, feel conflicted on the removal of monuments like these.出于这个原因我表示支持。然而，纽约人自己对于拆除这类纪念碑却感到很矛盾。Any of them I don't care. If you're not for us, you are against us. Gotta go.他们中的任何一个我都不在乎。如果你不支持我们，那你就是反对我们，就得走了。Martin Luther King? We could put him on those. We can start over. Obama? We could start over. Take them all off.马丁·路德·金？我们可以把他放在上面。我们可以重新开始。奥巴马？我们可以重新开始。把他们全部拿掉。I mean, the way America was built regardless was wrong and we gotta start over again.无论如何，美国的建立方式是错误的，我们得重新开始。I think this is an absolutely terrible decision. Having been born in the Soviet Union where statues and the history was rewritten, I am absolutely against these types of decisions.我觉得这绝对是个糟糕的决定。我出生在苏联，那里的雕像和历史曾被改写，我坚决反对这类决定。New York City being the size it is, there are many more statues that will come under the microscope. Should they stay? Or should they go?纽约市规模庞大，还有更多的雕像将受到审视。它们应该保留吗？还是应该被移除？Even before current controversies, New York City's mayor and his wife have been looking at putting up more statues depicting women and people of color.即便在最近的争议发生之前，纽约市市长及其夫人也一直在考虑竖立更多描绘女性和有色人种的雕像。