Disability Insurance Awareness Month with CDIA President Bob Herum [Podcast] episode artwork

EPISODE · May 5, 2026 · 55 MIN

Disability Insurance Awareness Month with CDIA President Bob Herum [Podcast]

from Income Protection Journal Podcast

A doctor who could no longer practice medicine after a neurological diagnosis started painting watercolors and selling them to make up what his disability benefits did not cover. His policy had been sufficient when he first bought it, but his income had grown beyond what the coverage was designed to replace, and no one had reviewed it in the years between. Bob Herum was a young agent at Provident at the time, delivering benefit checks to that doctor’s door, and one of those watercolors has hung in his hallway ever since. Herum is the president of the Council for Disability Income Awareness, a nonprofit whose mission is to make sure working Americans understand what income protection is before they need it. He entered the disability insurance business in 1986 after eight and a half years of military service, spent fourteen years as a vice president of sales and marketing at Provident, one of the country’s largest disability carriers, and has spent the past two and a half years rebuilding the CDIA after the organization went through a difficult leadership transition. The CDIA, which recently added the word “income” to its name to distinguish its mission from general disability services, now reaches nearly 40,000 agents and advisors and has expanded its membership to include Munich Re, major general agencies such as Ash Brokerage and DI Brokers East, and carrier members including Principal, Unum, and Lincoln Financial. I sat down with Herum on the Income Protection Journal Podcast during Disability Insurance Awareness Month to talk about the painting, the doctor, and what he has observed across four decades watching what happens when working Americans are covered and when they are not. It is a conversation I plan to return to. The Gap Most Workers With Group Coverage Have Never Thought to Check The story of the watercolor doctor is not unusual. The disability does not always arrive with drama. It comes from a neurological issue, a cancer diagnosis, a hand injury, a joint that stops cooperating. What makes it costly is the gap between what a worker assumes their coverage does and what the certificate of insurance actually says. Most workers with employer-provided coverage have never read that certificate. Herum spent ten years marketing group long-term disability and short-term disability products, and he is direct about what most of those plans do and do not cover. The benefit is typically 60 percent of base salary, calculated only on compensation from that employer. The portion the employer pays is taxable as federal income tax. And the coverage does not follow the worker if they change jobs. “Do you realize that if you leave that employer, that coverage stays with the company? It doesn’t travel with you,” Herum says. Most group long-term disability plans also include a provision that, after an initial period, shifts the definition of disability from inability to perform your own occupation to inability to perform any occupation at all. For a physician, attorney, or specialist whose income depends on a specific set of skills, that shift matters. Herum’s consistent message is not that group coverage is inadequate across the board. It is that very few workers have taken the time to understand what they actually have. The organizing idea behind the CDIA is that most people do not make a conscious decision to leave themselves unprotected. They make an unconscious one. They receive an enrollment form at work, they mean to look into it, and they never do. “Their lack of planning becomes their plan,” Herum says. The statistic the CDIA returns to is not an abstraction. A Milliman study confirmed what Herum first encountered in 1986: one out of four working Americans will experience at least a 90-day disability during their working career. “If I knew that there was a 25 percent chance that when I crossed the road, I was going to get hit by a car, I probably wouldn’t cross the road,” Herum says. The problem is not that people reject the risk when they confront it. The problem is that most people never confront it clearly enough to make a real decision. The Resources the CDIA Makes Available to Agents and Working Americans The tools the CDIA produces are free and available at cdia.org. For agents and advisors, there is a database of nearly 40,000 professionals receiving regular outreach, a library of more than 900 blog articles organized by coverage topic, training sessions focused on specific policy mechanics, and marketing materials designed to support client conversations year-round. For the working American who lands on the site, the CDIA is building video content designed to help answer a basic question: what do I actually have, and is it enough? One newer program certifies employers whose disability benefit offerings meet a defined standard. Herum envisions the database becoming a tool workers use when comparing job offers, letting them see which employers have built a real disability program rather than a nominal one. The first certificate was awarded days before our conversation. Carriers including Unum are already marketing the program to their employer clients. I work with high-income professionals and self-employed individuals on individual disability income coverage built around the specifics of their occupation and income. The coverage I place is structured differently from what most group plans provide, and understanding those differences before something goes wrong is exactly what Disability Insurance Awareness Month is designed to prompt. Herum’s framing is that every month should carry that prompt. May is the annual occasion to raise the conversation. The CDIA’s job is to make sure the conversation keeps happening in June, October, and January as well. The full conversation, including Herum’s account of a second claim story from his early career in Columbus involving a dentist who redirected his career to managing practices after his own disability, and his view on why only four out of every 100 licensed agents discuss disability insurance with their clients, is available on the Income Protection Journal Podcast. The resources he describes are at cdia.org.

NOW PLAYING

Disability Insurance Awareness Month with CDIA President Bob Herum [Podcast]

0:00 55:01

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

That Hoarder: Overcome Compulsive Hoarding That Hoarder Hoarding disorder is stigmatised and people who hoard feel vast amounts of shame. This podcast began life as an audio diary, an anonymous outlet for somebody with this weird condition. That Hoarder speaks about her experiences living with compulsive hoarding, she interviews therapists, academics, researchers, children of hoarders, professional organisers and influencers, and she shares insight and tips for others with the problem. Listened to by people who hoard as well as those who love them and those who work with them, Overcome Compulsive Hoarding with That Hoarder aims to shatter the stigma, share the truth and speak openly and honestly to improve lives. The Small Business Startup School – Business Notes | Financial Literacy | Retail Psychology – For Professionals & Entrepreneurs The Small Business Startup School Inc. Starting or buying a small business? While personal circumstances may vary, business patterns remain timeless. On The Small Business Startup School, we explore strategies, insights, and practical solutions to help entrepreneurs confidently navigate their journey.Hosted by Ola Williams—a retail entrepreneur, fintech founder, and financial coach with over two decades of experience—this podcast marries financial awareness and retail psychology with optimism to deliver actionable takeaways.Join us to learn, grow, and connect as we uncover the keys to business success.Let’s continue to learn together and be encouraged to keep on connecting! DIOSA. Carolina Sanper This podcast is a sacred space created by Carolina Sanper where you connect with your inner wisdom and embody your magnetic feminine power.It is the realization that the mystical realm is where you plant the seeds of your desired reality.It is a portal to your true essence: awareness, presence, and receiving with ease. Welcome home, DIOSA. 🖤 XXX Tech by SOVRYN Dr. Brian Sovryn The crossroads between technology, sensuality, and metaphysics - and the longest running anarchist podcast in the world! Brought to you by Dr. Brian Sovryn.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Income Protection Journal Podcast?

This episode is 55 minutes long.

When was this Income Protection Journal Podcast episode published?

This episode was published on May 5, 2026.

What is this episode about?

A doctor who could no longer practice medicine after a neurological diagnosis started painting watercolors and selling them to make up what his disability benefits did not cover. His policy had been sufficient when he first bought it, but his income...

Can I download this Income Protection Journal Podcast episode?

Yes, you can download this episode by clicking the download button on the episode player, or subscribe to the podcast in your preferred podcast app for automatic downloads.
URL copied to clipboard!