EPISODE · Aug 25, 2026 · 27 MIN
Don’t Panic - Pivot: The Real Estate Lesson Behind Lasting Success
from Hart & Hustle Podcast · host Keenan Hart
DJ Hines shares how he built a life of legacy, leadership, and resilient entrepreneurship without losing sight of what matters most.DJ opens up about the moment he left a path toward medicine to help people in a different way, how he learned to lead inside a family-driven ministry and school ecosystem, and why the best leaders are the ones who first get their own lives in order. He also shares the real-world pivots that kept his real estate business moving, even when the original plan stopped working.We break down DJ's approach to faith, family, and business, including the 38-year staying power of his family's church, the 25-year and 20-year reach of their schools, and the practical lesson behind his favorite phrase from the episode: don't panic pivot. If you've ever felt stretched thin, stuck in a transition, or responsible for more than one lane of leadership, this conversation lands.DJ also gets personal about marriage, fatherhood, and the importance of honest conversations between men, especially men of color who are often expected to carry everything silently. His perspective is grounded, practical, and deeply human.Perfect for anyone who leads people, builds businesses, or is trying to make better decisions under pressure. DJ Hines brings the kind of clarity that doesn't just inspire you — it helps you move.Timestamps0:00 — DJ Hines, music, and the nickname that stuck0:56 — Favorite artist PJ Morton and why live music still matters2:22 — 20 years of marriage and the secret to staying grounded2:59 — Raising three kids and the meaning behind the name Sedona6:58 — Leaving medicine to answer a call to help people8:55 — Leading as COO of a church, schools, and youth center network10:44 — Why some ministries last and others close12:24 — Why men need real conversations with other men16:10 — Mentors, hard advice, and learning to ask instead of do18:36 — What real leadership looks like before the titles20:30 — Entrepreneurship, self-employment, and the business side of growth23:02 — The real estate pivot: from apartments to Airbnb and travel stays25:27 — Building a digital presence and owning your name26:23 — Finding peace in a difficult season and trusting GodAbout DJ HinesDJ Hines is the Chief Operations Officer of Christian Faith Fellowship Church and helps oversee a broader organization that includes the Daryl and Hines Academy of Excellence, Destiny High School, and community outreach efforts in Milwaukee. He also works in real estate and is building the Heinz Foundation with a focus on entrepreneurship.About Hart & HustleHart & Hustle brings you weekly conversations with mission-driven leaders solving real problems in healthcare, education, and community services. Every week, hosts Keenan Hart and Efrain sit down with nonprofit executives, operations directors, and innovators to uncover practical strategies you can implement in your organization.Subscribe for weekly insights on nonprofit leadership, operations, and scaling mission impact.Connect With UsFRANSiS™ Website: https://fransis.aiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/fromfransis#NonprofitLeadership #MissionDrivenLeadership #Entrepreneurship
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