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EPISODE · Mar 17, 2026 · 30 MIN

Dr. Scott Lyons Plus One (Part 2): The Way Out of Chaos

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In Part 1, he named the addiction. In Part 2, he asks the deeper question: What’s the way out?  Clinical psychologist, body-based trauma expert, and author of Addicted to Drama, Dr. Scott Lyons returns with hosts Martin Luther King III, Arndrea Waters King, Marc Kielburger, and Craig Kielburger to explore how we break free from a culture fueled by urgency, outrage, overstimulation, and loneliness.  Joined again by his lifelong friend Nicole Asselin, Scott unpacks the difference between trauma bonding and drama bonding, the physiological cost of our attentional economy, and why shared stress can either heal us or hook us.  Together, they explore:  The critical difference between trauma bonding and drama bonding  How social media and the “attention economy” fuel stress addiction  Why loneliness is more dangerous than we realize  The body-based practices that help regulate overstimulation  How service and shared purpose can interrupt the chaos cycle  Missed Part 1? You can listen here. New episodes drop every Tuesday. Subscribe for conversations that challenge, heal, and inspire. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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