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EPISODE · Jul 7, 2026 · 41 MIN

Drownproof: Eight Life Lessons to Keep Your Head Above Water

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EP55: Drownproof: Eight Life Lessons to Keep Your Head Above WaterYou've built your whole identity around what you accomplish, and it worked, until the day it didn't. This week, host Shelly Rood sits down a fellow Veteran - a retired Navy SEAL - who says the strongest people he's ever known are the first ones to ask for help, and who's still working out what it costs when you don't.Andy Stumpf spent seventeen years as a Navy SEAL, six of those on SEAL Team Six. In February 2005, an insurgent shot him at close range on a deployment in Iraq, doctors weren't sure he'd walk the same again. He came back, and later set two world records skydiving from 36,500 feet to raise $750,000 for the Navy SEAL Foundation. His book, "Drownproof: Eight Life Lessons to Keep Your Head Above Water," is a New York Times bestseller with a foreword from Jocko Willink.In this conversation, Andy talks candidly about why asking for help gets treated as weakness in high-performance cultures when it's actually the opposite, why money is a tool to say no rather than a way to acquire things, and what his own career cost his marriage and his kids the first time around. We also get into a live, unresolved question: what happens when the label you've earned starts doing more work for your identity than you want it to.Chapters00:00 Show Intro and Teaser01:18 Season One Finale Setup01:52 Meet Andy Stumpf04:08 Montana Life and Big Sky04:54 Spirituality and Saying I Dont Know07:23 Podcast Questions and Relationship Themes09:50 Entrepreneurial Path and Coffee Shop13:00 Money as a Tool to Say No14:53 Drown Proof and Identity Beyond SEAL17:24 Asking for Help and Alcohol Culture21:41 Competition Social Media and Jujitsu35:50 Final Advice and Host Closing ReflectionsKey TopicsWhy the most capable people ask for help first, not lastReframing money as a tool to say no, not a way to acquire thingsThe real cost of chasing danger and delaying what matters mostBeing more than the label you've earned, even one you're proud ofGuestAndy Stumpf, retired Navy SEAL (SEAL Team Six), New York Times bestselling author of Drownproof: Eight Life Lessons to Keep Your Head Above Water, host of Cleared Hot.ResourcesGrab Drownproof: Eight Life Lessons to Keep Your Head Above Water at your favorite bookstoreGo deeper into Andy's point of view: andystumpf.comConnect with Hardcore and At EaseJoin the community: join.othersoverself.comTake the Wildflower Assessment for Women Veterans: othersoverself.shopBe At Ease Woman Veteran gatherings: womanveteranstrong.orgMission Wildflower on Substack: shellyrood.substack.comQuestions or booking inquiries: [email protected] the HostShelly Rood is the host of Hardcore and At Ease, an Others Over Self® show for mission-driven leaders who want to keep their edge without going over the edge.

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