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EPISODE · Jun 15, 2026 · 27 MIN

E21. Numbing Conversation

from The Sadie Green Story. · host Sadie Green/Pam Colby

Send us Fan MailA life can look solid on the outside while feeling insecure inside. Is this universal? Is keeping oneself busy and useful an avoidance of pain and joy? Sadie shares how retirement, the end of a long relationship, and returning to therapy helped her recognize emotional numbing. Can enough approval-seeking and validation from others ever help us feel "filled up?" Does deferring wants and the "right-hand gal" role help one feel safer around power? We ponder these questions.And we reflect on separating the adult self from the child self, building emotional awareness, and welcoming feelings instead of barricading the door, ending with Rumi’s “The Guest House.” Feel free to subscribe and share with others. You can also email us at < [email protected] or send a voice message from any particular episode on our website http://SadieStory.Buzzsprout.comSpecial Thanks to our supporters, who have made this podcast possible.Lucy Mathews Heegaard: Audio Engineer with music via Epidemic SoundTerry Gydesen: PhotographerPolly KelloggKate TillotsonDawn CharbonneauJacob WyattMolly TillotsonClare DudzinskiJulian BowersWendy HorowitzMaggie KazelPat FarrellLynette TabertLaura JensenPeople's Farm CollectiveDeborah Copperud of "Spock Talk" podcast

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Send us Fan Mail A life can look solid on the outside while feeling insecure inside. Is this universal? Is keeping oneself busy and useful an avoidance of pain and joy? Sadie shares how retirement, the end of a long relationship, and returning to therapy helped her recognize emotional numbing. Can enough approval-seeking and validation from others ever help us feel "filled up?" Does deferring wants and the "right-hand gal" role help one feel safer around power? We ponder these questions. And...

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