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EPISODE · Aug 21, 2026 · 1H 28M

Eight Stages of Revolution - Intel Vet Rick Hoppe Maps the Path from Grievance to Rupture S3-EP8

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Retired intelligence officer and author Rick Hoppe joins Havok and LX for a deep, no-BS breakdown of modern revolutions. From his 32 years in the intel community (including the Iraq surge) to the eight-stage process that every successful (and failed) revolution has followed since the mid-1700s, Rick lays out the real mechanics of legitimacy, rupture, and why you can't bomb your way to freedom. We dig into coups vs. true revolutions, color uprisings, the Iran situation, algorithmic cages, and what "stage three" looks like in America and Canada right now. 00:00 – Welcome & Jeopardy vibes 00:37 – Meet Rick Hoppe & Eight Stages 01:07 – How a late-night "drive-by" in Iraq sparked the book 04:06 – What actually counts as a revolution? 05:47 – Coup d'état vs. full societal overthrow 07:16 – Color revolutions, Kyiv, and Gene Sharp 09:18 – Why Iran's center of gravity isn't missiles 13:29 – You can't bomb your way into a revolution 18:51 – Golden bridges, IRGC, and no way out 23:06 – Building a revolutionary analyst's toolkit 26:08 – PsyOps, algorithms, and the information cage 31:11 – Is North America already in the stages? 33:04 – The Eight Stages explained (incubation to rupture) 39:24 – Stage four: the point of no return 44:00 – Collapse, force projection, and legitimacy 54:12 – How to avoid revolution & the power of the middle 01:01:04 – Writing the book, clearances, and life after intel 01:05:45 – Jack Ryan reality check & interrogation myths 01:09:32 – Advice to young Rick & the price of solving problems 01:18:55 – What still gives Rick hope 01:23:29 – Shout-outs to Dad & Coach Sandoval 01:25:08 – Where to find Rick & what's next Find Rick at https://rickhoppe.substack.com/ Grab Eight Stages: A Primer on Modern Revolution Here: https://www.amazon.com/Eight-Stages-Primer-Modern-Revolution/dp/B0GZJH36G7/ Want to be a guest on Space Tomatoes? Send us a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.joinpodmatch.com/spacetomatoes

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