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EPISODE · May 6, 2025 · 52 MIN

EMDR: Because Talk Therapy Alone Can Make Trauma Worse with Jeremy Fox, Counselor & EMDR Consultant

from The Gaslit Truth Podcast · host Dr. Teralyn & Therapist Jenn

Send us Fan MailTalking about trauma doesn't always lead to healing – in fact, it can sometimes make things worse. This groundbreaking episode features EMDR expert Jeremy Fox, who reveals why traditional talk therapy approaches sometimes fall short when treating trauma and introduces a powerful alternative.Jeremy explains how Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) works through a fundamentally different mechanism than conventional therapy. Rather than having clients deeply immerse themselves in traumatic narratives, EMDR creates what Jeremy calls a "dual attention process" – keeping one foot in the traumatic past and one in the present. Through guided eye movements or other bilateral stimulation, EMDR "taxes working memory," making it difficult for the brain to maintain the same intense emotional connection to traumatic memories.We explore the fascinating science behind this approach, including Jeremy's published research on the Zeigarnik Effect – the psychological principle that explains why interrupted or incomplete experiences (like traumatic memories) remain more vivid in our minds than completed ones. Jeremy illuminates how EMDR leverages this effect to help the brain finally process what's been "stuck."Perhaps most surprising is Jeremy's revelation that clients don't necessarily need to verbally share all the details of their trauma for EMDR to be effective. This makes the therapy particularly valuable for those who find it impossible to talk about their experiences or who have tried talk therapy without success.The conversation also addresses common misconceptions about EMDR, the importance of the therapeutic relationship, and how medication might impact trauma processing. Whether you're a therapy professional or someone seeking healing from past wounds, this episode offers valuable insights into how our brains process trauma and the innovative approaches that can lead to transformation.Ready to explore new pathways to healing? Listen now and discover why sometimes the most effective therapy isn't about talking more – it's about processing differently.We're recruiting for a first-of-its-kind psychiatric medication withdrawal research study. If you've experienced psychiatric medication withdrawal, you may be eligible to participate.  Email [email protected] to learn more.  Savorista Coffee is offering our listeners 25% off their premium craft decaf and half caf blends with bold flavors, ethically sourced beans, and natural decaffeination. Small-batch roasted for exceptional taste. EUse promo code GASLIT at checkout! https://savorista.com/discount/GASLIT 💊 Ready to Deprescribe Your Psych Meds?Psych meds have harmed us—and we’re not just survivors, we’re deeply educated in psychopharmacology, psychology, and nutrition. As hosts of The Gaslit Truth Podcast, we guide people safely off psychiatric medications with strategies grounded in science and brain health🔥 You’ve been harmed. You’ve been dismissed. It’s time to take your brain back—with guidance from people who’ve been there and know their stuff.Support the showAre you tired of being gaslit and want to DEEP THROAT some more truth? We want to hear from you!  Message us your gaslit stories at [email protected] you are at it, Follow us on Instagram, Facebook and YouTube @thegaslittruthpodcast.  Be sure to Hit that subscribe button and get alerts for more episodes! Thanks for listening!Follow Us individually atDr. Teralyn:Instagram @Dr_TeralynFacebook  @DrTeralynTik Tok @Dr_TeralynTherapist Jenn: Instagram @TherapistJenTikTok @Jenn.Schmitz

Send us Fan Mail Talking about trauma doesn't always lead to healing – in fact, it can sometimes make things worse. This groundbreaking episode features EMDR expert Jeremy Fox, who reveals why traditional talk therapy approaches sometimes fall short when treating trauma and introduces a powerful alternative. Jeremy explains how Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) works through a fundamentally different mechanism than conventional therapy. Rather than having clients deeply im...

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