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Does it matter at all? I don't think it does. I mean in theory England have now have now won the nation's league group They're in they're gonna get promoted again, but like I said like people were celebrating on the streets because we won the group It's like I've heard I have not had a single English person claim to care about winning the nation's league group Which is why wait, I've heard one English person really clinked again. That's how you can't It's quite clear.
I think Harry changes because that's going goals I don't think he cares about the nation's league I think I which is why if you read the press recently It's all this like culture wall stuff because there's nothing else to talk about There's nothing nothing real is meaningfully happening Yeah, because the next big thing coming up is the World Cup and it literally doesn't matter at all what happens in the nation's league For England making the World Cup we got relegated to nation's league B and then go to the final European championships and don't care like This is just not important. It's like coming out of the League Cup in the third round It's not gonna matter at the end of the season Yeah, and it's fun for fans to add a little bit of steaks to some games I guess but ultimately if it's not connected to the competitions that people care deeply about It's always going to be an afterthought Yeah, I admire the way to try to come up with something new that people would hopefully care about But like it just doesn't show how much trophies are a special construct You know like even then any trophy and people so like all the people who normally say it's all about trophies I'm saying well, we don't care about this trophy. So, you know, it's kind of like it was a nice idea But I don't think it's panda Yeah And then the other thing that's going on here is that England have hired Thomas Tuko But Thomas Tuko is not currently coaching the team and so ever sort of going forward now is this like Zong the England national team that is going to be changed in some fashion in the near future Well, yeah, I mean, well, but the only costly era has completed now like there's currently no inclination until the first of January Then it will be officially Thomas Tuko, but in every like in every way that matters like we are now entering the top of the area Cuz yeah, well if he was employed right now, what would he be doing between now and January just watching a lot of primarily Can't prove it which I would imagine he'll do anyway, which I imagine he was also doing when he was managing buyer Munich Yes, no, but he signed he signed the contract and probably just changed the TV channel from the Bundesliga to the prime That's gotta be honest. It really seemed like he was watching a lot of full of matches He's been desperate to get all these like hard-working British guys in his team and now he's got some many of them Let's kind of start there.
Like what do you what do we think like England is going to look like under him? Do we think it'll be I guess from two angles right because one angle is like What's to do generally and two is like does that port over well to the international game or are we gonna get like some Modify version of it with him helming England, which is like, you know, sort of a mirror of a comment That part of the conversation we have about much you know the US and NT a lot But it's like how much of to go ball do we think is portable to the international game? I think we've been seeing a modified version of it quite a long time anyway now Like I would be stoned if he went if he reverted to his principles and gave us like minds to go like that That would be a huge shot like like he's since going to PSG He's become much more reactive and much more Defensive and hopefully willing to adjust to what the price one even if he found out we're quite a few of them a buy-in Like so I I would expect to see some degree of adjustment to to to the environment Which is a positive thing because I think in the light of his career he's had no success doing things quickly and just just coming in and Introducing figuring out what he can introduce in a short space of time and getting it to happen quite quickly But I have no idea what the tactical system will be but he could really like but he could do anything But it's like trying to figure out what goes on until his head is kind of impossible But I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure we're different to sake and I'm pretty sure some of these some of the players We've been playing or not been playing. We'll not appreciate what he's doing and you know Someone's gonna draw the shots throughout here and not play very much But I've no idea who that is right now I mean this is this is like a this is also just sort of tough testing it to like the strength and depth of English talent at the moment, right?
And you know this international break like you guys just bailed and it didn't matter tools a lot It's like the cover is very very full for England at the moment Yeah, but if he I'm not saying this will I won't happen if he just decided he didn't like all comments Some reason say like I'm not sure that would matter very much But I think you can pick any of these players and it probably fine Right and these are players that would be stars on the large majority of like teams at the next World Cup And it's okay for England to like have a manager who says yeah, that guy doesn't fit and it's a really fascinating stuff I think it's worth coming back to some of the tactical questions before moving on to the personnel questions Obviously that the two are in some ways not Holy separable But I think that the larger span of Tukal's career which you pointed out is really important to discuss here because Tukal at might had a very distinct sort of possession attacking system Which then he modified somewhat at Dortmund in both cases with a reasonably high press but very much sort of built on possession structure and This then like was not exactly what he did when he came to PSG where he kind of like you know Did the thing that all PSG managers do which is like create a little bit of structure behind a couple of superstars You can't tell them anything and then at Chelsea It's interesting how similar this path is to pochitinos and then at Chelsea He formed he did a more reactive and defensive version of his system that involved more playing without the ball Then had been something they did a lot at Dortmund and mites and that by Byern looks a lot more like his PSG where there's just a little bit of possession structure behind a bunch of superstars you're trying to get kind of get on the ball and I think that like it's important I think that a lot of people who only watched Thomas Tukal win the Champions League at Chelsea and then fall out with ownership at Chelsea Have seen a Thomas Tukal who really did a lot of playing without the ball and did a lot of very reactive football And what he has shown over his course of his career is that he's capable of doing that But not for that's the only thing that he does. I think having said that I think that's if I were to bet on it I would say he would probably do something question that anyway But it's like if I were to Guess what what the plan is now I guess it's gonna be fairly like knock out tournament football fairly reactive with just but just with at least a few ideas What he's gonna do with these attacking players like I don't I don't have an old quote of his from when he was at Chelsea talking about how he talking about keeping the game plan relatively stable before big games Not other than the players with information like I think that's I think that's more likely how he's going to be thinking about this I wouldn't you know, yeah, I was like Poshtina how much all the Poshtina game But like he's trying to find out that he seems more interested in playing the the Poshtina way if you like like I would be very surprised If Tushal went that route on I think he will go the exact opposite route and just try and find something that works with With these specific let's like I think he might be quite stubborn once he decides what he wants to do But I think he'll be created that for in terms of what he's going to try and do I mean that seems right to me. I do think it's a little bit interesting that You know, it's an environment where he's gonna have in I don't know 95% of the games a significant talent advantage, right? And I mean as far as comparisons to Poshtina ago, that's like a really good big departure Whereas Poshtina has to do the thing with the US team where he's like well We play in our own region where usually the most out the team and then when we play in anything that matters we're not Where's England?
They're just like almost always the most out of the team and when they're not they're like arguably on par But those games where they are arguably debateably not like that's going to define the entirety of whether it's just a success Yeah, I think that that's right, but like it's interesting to me that you have to decide If you're keeping a stable approach across opposition Well most of your opposition you are approaching from a standpoint of we have a lot more our game plan incorporates That we have a lot more talent than you do if you're not flipping back and forth So I'm curious like even those big games like the games that are really gonna matter right like nobody's gonna like say Oh, it's fine that you went out in the quarterfinals France even if like That's a pretty normal outcome whether he's going to want to be Whether he's gonna want in the majority of games to approach them as basically preparation for the games I think that's why he was pretty clear saying that like he signed up for 18 months with a singular aim of trying to win the World Cup Like so therefore like I I think I Think all we will see in the qualifiers other than obviously trying to qualify is just building just putting Figuring out what their system going to be and putting the principles in place like I don't I don't think you'll make any adjustments to try and beat them all over or whoever it in the big I think it will be quite simply like this is how I want to be able to play in the World Cup and this is practice Yeah, I agree with that I think that the last Euro is England You know they made the final so well done there But like the problems with that system showed up will before the file. You know there's there's there's a world very much like our own We are England lose the Slovakia in the round of 16 because they're unable to mount any kind of attacking And so like the first thing to see from Tukal is how is this team going to produce attacking output that they didn't under self-tate But actually that huh like I think I think you think like but like I think you can put a fairly straightforward structure But even like even under sat it before this tournament like we like at the World Cup We saw a family effective attacking side like I do not think I think it was watching and in the heroes It just looks like there was no structure and possession whatsoever But I do not think it should be hard to put some basic principles in that that could easily be less aside It's like that that seems the easiest part of the job when you've got all these good plans Oh, absolutely I have one of the reasons that I think that Tukal was a good hire is that You take away that risk that your new manager is not going to solve that problem It would be extremely odd if you didn't you just need to do the stock it suffer ball But with a few ideas in possession like that would be an extremely effective football team I guess moving on to personnel a little bit here Do we expect him? I mean, I don't know Like is the idea that we think that he'll come in and he'll be like here are two or three guys That I think we can build possession ideas around and that's how the scene is gonna work or is the idea like we got a really deep roster Let's keep everybody sort of involved. Maybe a couple people get excited for a number of purposes But on any given day, it might be soccer It might be phone it might be Palmer.
It might be Ollie Watkins Like do we think that like do we think he's gonna keep up pretty wide rotation is that for the World Cup? Or do we expect him narrowing it down pretty quickly? I think you I think I want his guy like I think I think you'll want a car people that he really likes and interests and I don't know whether he already has the prize in 91 or it's gonna be a process of deception But like I don't think he will want to be flexible in terms of which place he plays I think if he decides that he really likes soccer, then he's gonna play the stack it for example Yeah, I think that like in the attacking line where they just have such a ridiculously stacked set of talent That likes to play behind a striker That's where like you can kind of just there aren't a lot of wrong choices there so long as the system doesn't suck You know you can't play all of Foden and Bellingham and Palmer and Saka I guess you can but that might be one of the only wrong choices and you just kind of got to deal with it And I'm sure that he will Where I think it gets messier to me is like at the top of that system where you have like age Concerns and at the back of that system where you have the trick problem I would be like Harry Kane's like the only guy in like with like who we already know he likes Like I would be I would be shocked if Harry Kane was not the focal point of this time to be fair to him It's still like doing things in the brothers like this So, you know, I think maybe I think that's probably fine especially because like We've seen even in many many tournaments struggle to exit any kind of pressing system Like the worst thing you could do would be try and get this team to press in a sum of tournament Like I think I think he's going to have to accept that these players are going to be tired But you and it's going to be a lot harder than England gets and so like it is what it is Like do not do not try and play If England had had posh-tino I'd be more concerned about posh-tino managing England Than I would be about managing the United States because I think that would be a really bad style of football to the situation So like if Harry Kane can be fairly immobile like I think I don't think that's a huge problem I think you can look around that the way that they're probably gonna play Especially because the other guys around him are all fairly young So, but yeah, no trend is like one more question is what he's gonna do with Trent Like I feel like either he's going to have a really clear plan of what to do or he's just gonna decide it's not what to happen Yeah, that's like those really are the options and Southgate picked neither Southgate picked not have a plan of what to do and play Trent as an eight And you know, that is again one of the things I think that England are very unlikely to do under Tuko He's either going to he understands what Trent is Which is a ridiculously good but extremely tactically specific player And either you build your tactics around that player Or you build a system that doesn't use them Or maybe he's like a sub that comes on when you want to stay on a bunch of crosses in I mean, like I do think he would be a big waste if England never played out with your Trent Because that's just like like like like so many problems England have had in possession in recent years Could be fixed if you've got Trent in a position where he could have damaged like Like like the easiest fix to England's midfield problems Is to figure out a way to get Trent on the ball But I think that would have a great deal at night I really hope he has a month with that, but I don't know if he does The other thing that I when I look through Possible pitfalls I mean, look the easiest way that the Thomas Tuko era quote unquote fails Is They lose in the quarterfinals of the World Cup to another very good team In a match in which they're not obviously the worst team This is just how tournament football works, right? Um To be the second most likely way that this era would fail is if 18 months from now Harry King should not be leading the England line And you have tons of good young prime age talents And no way to sort of like move move in aging slowing keen Aside who really could be an anchor at the top of England by that point in time I think that's quite a problem common problem in among top European sides now Like like like it's been like England I'm kind of feeling like they're a decade behind Germany playing still playing a close up front Like like like it seems like a structural problem the European academies can't produce strikers And like I I don't know like international football is a dumb version of the game And it's like if all Harry King can do is kick the ball into net But maybe that still works fine at this level Like maybe you don't need him being able to do a lot of the stuff So Well, one thing I'd say though is if you look at if you look at Germany with closer closer started the final of the World Cup If he started like three of the World Cup games in 2014 You can't start all of them Yeah, he started with some weird plan to avoid playing striker before giving up and deciding that he needed to He just needed to play closer And then for years later the additional started with I don't remember what he had some weird front line They didn't have striker and then he just like, you know what, let's just put your real up front So I think even an immobile hurricane would be better than Then some kind of like fell apart as a false nine compasses You can just play all the wackens Why?
There's usually some guy in England who scored like 16 or more goals in the criminal league That's something we'll probably like I don't know maybe Solanki hits a run of bomb Or maybe someone else happens to be like I feel like there will be a criminal striker anyway Yeah, and I think that like the the question for me where like this you know Obviously is like putting a bunch of hypotheticals in place But it seems pretty likely that in 2026 there will be some good prime age English striker It seems reasonably likely that wackens will still be good Reasonably likely that Solanki will be good Reasonably likely that someone else there's a bunch of English players who are strikers who might be good in a year and a half And it also seems reasonably unlikely that any of those guys are producing any level that is particularly comparable to what Harry came did at his peak Maybe they will that would make the job easy All the wackens is like a 30 goal striker and you're like, well, we got this young guy We got all the wackens we can solve this problem Or you have a competition because Kane is still firing But if Kane is not quite firing and your wackens is your Solanki's you're I don't know He gets really good or something what the heck like those guys are merely good Those guys are as you say 16 goal a season strikers It becomes I can see this problem arising very easily if Kane is also Actually on a downslope rather than having big seasons and then being a little at what it comes time for a tournament Yeah, I agree that that's that that's gonna be a can be a problem Whoever the manager is I mean like just having good players is better than not having good players Don't have a simple state that's like no It is a structural problem that in the beginning half like I'm not like you know, Germany, France, Spain All these countries that can't produce non-strikers But how dare you slander Alvarado that way? How absolutely dare you? Well, he's getting fairly off now They don't have a long-term replacement. They really don't there they love Alvarado in state It's so wonderful Basically like unless you happen to be a Norwegian freedom nature, if you're a European striker under 27 You know that like I don't know what the solution is.
It's probably going to be a problem for European people for quite some time And it's not something that officials gonna be able to stop So we don't abandon off and talk about the fact that he's German I don't really have anything to say about it, but a whole bunch of people sure have a whole lot to say about No, no, no, it's like people who invented this but I was like, okay, well, some countries hire foreign managers But you know England are one of the special countries that they shouldn't behind them I'm like how enough do you define that category like I don't like like like like like if you're defining it in terms of historic success Then you're a wife of myself. Yes, you're just finding it in terms of like wealth and population Then the United States have mercy Pochtino You know like I don't I don't see a list definition you could come up with They would say it's fine for those countries to hire foreign artists, but England not hiring English Like that doesn't make it like it seems like a kind of parochialism to say oh no No, no, where one is a good country? Where are the special countries that they should hire our manager and it's like Well, I'm not I'm not sure I see the magic in it I'm like if you look at some of the other specific countries that have done this Italy they had Roberto Menchini and he doesn't make the World Cup And so they get rid of him and they bring in Luciano Spaletti and Spain has at least Enrique for a while But they have this very very distinct Spanish tactical vision And so they can bring in somebody from the like larger Spain apparatus And that guy will play the Spain football and those are both good systems Either you have tons and tons of high quality You know coaches who are from your country or you have a very distinct tactical system that you can plug in managers who have learned to play that system And that's great. England obviously hasn't either of those things The English model is to just hire the best person from abroad It's so rich because we just hire the best people from abroad and then charge lots of people people lots of money to watch it Like that you might not like it, but that's how philosophy now That's what peak performance looks like That's exactly No, I mean, look, it's really true and and there is Invariably like English football has special flower syndrome, right and it it comes out when talking about the Premier League's It comes out when talking about talking about football as a sport versus other sports Then you know it comes out when talking about the national team that there is something I mean like I don't mean to be dismissive of it I think that fans really authentically believe in a lot of ways that there is something about English football That differentiates itself in an ineffable way that if you are not English, you cannot comprehend Um, I might suggest that that belief is one that actually holds back the national team as opposed to propelling it But it is absolutely a real piece The fact that England have hired a foreign manager when you know Germany, Spain, Italy, France They wouldn't do that Is that not evidence that England have less of this syndrome in other countries like that You know the fact that in some countries it wouldn't even be considered is that like It's a fair argument.
I might English football have been through the Premier League have been more willing to look out with than some of these other countries and you know I mean I think the transmission mechanism is pretty interesting right because it's a lot of times It's like not English owners coming in buying Premier League clubs and being much more willing to look outside England Which then sort of shapes the culture You can argue that the English football system has been more willing to invite that in the first place Like oh, I mean absolutely sure I don't think you can separate the fact that the Premier League is the most much weak in the world And it's also the most international club involved. I think those are related then Yeah, absolutely And I think the other piece of this is that people learn English in school around the globe and so I'm I'm talking to you to like wearing three different countries here on how many constitution English That's the whole thing. It's okay. I'm the one who lives in the non-English speaking country and all of my conversations here in English, too Yeah, now that they're all buying our pop music wearing our blue jeans sets That's the nature of the world.
Let me tell you Halloween was a couple of weeks ago Every kid who came to my house walked away shouting and excitement that they got the good American candy Soft power, baby nerds and airheads soft power Regular nerds or the new soft chewy nerds. I'm gonna make no comment here I'm gonna make no comment on my opinions of the quality of American candy And the fact that the whole thing exists as a money lumping racket in this country The nerds that I gave so this was the end of the evening. I was out of candy We had uh nerd ropes like the chewy nerd ropes I had like I don't know 20 of them in the back of the closet I pulled them out And these were the kids that were like so these were kind of the older kids because it's getting towards like nine o'clock And it's supposed to be the end of the end of trick-or-treating time in our little like district of you know suburban Brussels I don't know what she was but she was like 14 years old and she was like in rollerblades and she was with her mom comes to the door first of all she like Full on smashes into the door finish gets up on her rollerblades. It was like holds out her bag I hand her the nerd rope.
She gets so excited by that the nerd rope. She jumps up and down Except she's in roller skits and she entirely wipes out on the in front of My door because she got the good American candy nerds ropes And then I had to like try really hard not to laugh at this poor like teenage Girl with her mom right there Do these kids know kid like all that nice douche and chocolate or something like they do but they're also stuck with the worst of how about It doesn't hit the same. There's some sort of metaphor for the disruptive effect of of like, you know American imperialism in that girl waving out at a roller skates due to American candy To be fair, I think if we're making the comparison to Belgian chocolate The imperial is a conversation in Belgium is a two-way street It's a whole lot going on in the history of Belgium that sure is but to return to the topic at hand I know I know So if you were to guess one player that has been core to the Southgate England set up That tool will not Continue with figure all three of us could could make a guess here. Um, I think the obvious example is kind of walker Like which feels like a cheat because it's gonna age out anyway, but like I didn't like Southgate's guys were generally the guys who were willing to do what they were told and try hard all the time and like That's most managers guys.
So I think like the other guys will probably be fairly safe I don't I feel like every time a team changes the manager the fans are like, oh great The place I don't like anymore. I can't play and the place I like I can stop playing and the same place because Managers like the people who train out. So like I'm not sure I'm expecting huge changes that Yeah, if I had thought like if I had thoughts I mean, it's it was kind of the guys that have already either like completely been aged out or were on their way out Like I don't think that an older regime Sterling would have would have seen a lot of joy get it But he's out of the picture already Big ball I would suck it for some reason True, but I don't like I don't think he's coming back into the picture right like um Raheem's sort of Marcus rasher same thing sort of thing I like I don't I would not envisage him coming back into the picture when you look at just how rich the attacking talent is um I Wonder if we're gonna see a switch to Declan rice as the lone holder kind of at the base of midfield And I do wonder what that means for the next generation of central mental talent none of them are really like there Obviously like the big story of heroes was like who is next to rice and it was kind of a mess But I think guys like main you guys like um Adam warden like guys who were supposed to be the next generation coming up I wonder if they're gonna have a hard time breaking into this midfield if you look at it to be like decklin rice and a couple eights for the next five years I mean, I think that's the obvious thing to do with this talent the fact that like if that's if you could if you would have trend inverting in from right back like You could get away with like more progress in the field is in front of right You could get away with baleum as one from the field is and I like like maybe like baleum and jumps in front of rice and then trend it doesn't The way I was sort of looking at as I was walking through this is that the obvious thing is that this team has been very dependent on Two different right backs here in trip here and kyle walker who are both very old and like trip you're being gone Seems like the most obvious thing in the world kyle walker I'm not so sure he's gonna age out, but I think he very well might age into a being a right back right center back And so you've got to change things there and then the other question is okay You know the guy who was not in this system as a regular but is playing an incredibly high level is cool palmer but are you going to You know find a way to knock saka out of the team that seems unlikely Are you going to play him with baleum that would be quite something to see are you you know that would be you know like rice baleum palmer midfield? Oh, so that is what I think about the tactics right because I think that like Palmer and baleum with rice and then with say shred inverting from right back into midfield is a thing you could do in like Three quarters of international matches and then like you can't do it at all in the ones that really matter And so I think grace your point is like don't expect to see that because that's gonna end up being counterproductive Yeah, he might do something that everyone hates like like like like I don't know He might find some random bruise that's about alongside rice and like everyone complies.
It's so boring but Like it wouldn't it wouldn't shut me if he doesn't like that I think it's more likely that he's just gonna drop some of these guys than try and find the system to get some more on the team Yeah, the two people who were pretty heavily involved under under self-aid in recent years And I think are the most likely to get dropped are Gallagher and Maynell I think that Thomas Tukal does not want someone whose best production is running out of midfield I mean, I guess that's why he's talk like Gallagher will follow in stretch it like he's now Gallagher's now playing in like the most strict manager in Europe So like it wouldn't it would not shock me if he likes Gallagher in some kind of specific tactical role that he will follow Perfect for it, but I don't that I The players that be more concerned about like that can you like they've been in the right director James Madison type people who will Just do what they want. I think that can really struck that. That seems cool. That is the big question Yeah, I'm gonna say that like I think that's quite upset and people say that but it reminds me a little bit Of when Spain was overflowing with midfielders, you know, sort of in the golden the last golden era of Spanish football when you had guys like Juan Manta and sent his or the To a certain extent civil was was involved and played a bunch but was not a nail-down starter They just had so many of these really good players that like You know invariably some of them were just like left out.
Yeah, now I remember being ready for sure I remember like they would have like in yes and so that as the wingers at times And I just be like, yes Just drop one isn't that someone who did not as good people running behind like that would take so many of your problems There was a lot of that No, my optimism is that Tusho will be able to see these problems and and adjust. If this fails, I do not think it'll be the tackle reasons If it fails, what will it be for? Only because people don't like him very much It's like the players might decide they don't like it maybe like the power where the players just did not get on with him at all They found his train sessions goal and his camp goal and they just didn't want to be that Like I think that's more likely than tactical problems Very much by that I think that the odds that England make the like really obvious tactical mistakes of like we got a bunch of tens Let's play all of our tens like that's not the sort of mistake that how it's usually going to make but No, they're kind of the second time of school. We'll be angrily explaining.
What do you want me to do? I have all of these tens. I can't play all of these tens in the postmaster conference You know, England just famously care very easy time and press so that should be proper I'm sure everyone will understand. I'm sure no one will be annoyed when that club's best player is no end of the team Yeah, no, it's it's a it's a highly functional environment that should bring out the best in everyone involved But the lucky thing for England is that all other countries are also insane about their national team And have incredibly toxic local media environments that just aren't in the English language So we don't talk about them as much at least now it balances out I don't read Brazilian media, but my god, I'm sure it's insane right now I mean like this this international break to what we're doing after messing with alnose Like it's it's a weird moment generally and international I think I think this sort of weird transition moment will functionally be passed by the next world cup But it'll be the first world cup after it like I don't know if we're gonna have an although there I don't know if we're gonna have messy there.
I think we will but it's like a close run thing I've been assuming that messy is gonna kind of take it. You know kind of not push him That's not very hard to make sure that that is my my sort of guess is that like you'll play half an analysis and again That's the kind of like the very serious US soccer fans who complain about that will be okay We can talk to the world cup in the United States My favorite thing I've you know following MLS through occasionally looking at tables and then seeing what people post when MLS games are happening The fact that inter Miami were by a wide margin the top team in the table with incredibly mediocre underlying stats It was so wonderful Just MLS is just like Unless it's just the xkcd cartoon about we had we had it with some random number number generator spit outs and numbers Let's let's invent narratives about them and messy should only play half season that He seems to be a Japanese life. I assume about me. They'll just be back in the fold You know in a couple months, but like Whatever's going on there's really weird Deshamps did this with Benson over the years, so it's like it's not it's not impossible to me that it doesn't look like And probably sort of stuff out but like like like like even not surprising if Deshamps is like Makes it very difficult to come back at which point they should just sack Deshamps Yes I said this and then like people on Twitter were like how can you say that when he's won the World Cup and got to the final?
I was like did you watch that team? It was all about it Like people have Think people watch the last year's and then somehow convince themselves that I'm back at disappoints for France Like he can like the best player like literally the best player in major times they've ever had Almost single-handedly won the World Cup against Argentina Yeah, and it was only because Messi said basically single-handedly won Argentina the World Cup that it might be did So damn how poor it runs for France in this like with that question We could get it as a dance sinder if we want and all for is a dance like I put it as a dance slander friendly podcast Who has the least to be able Okay, so Now that we're all gonna agree on our highly canceled opinions but we're gonna talk about how to go as a manager who's there for 18 months and This is what he can do for the time that he's there Like international managers staying as long as Deshamps have is really weird And usually they end up creating the problems of the next manager will have to solve which it seems like he's in the business of doing right now he seems to have convinced everyone that he's like I I don't know why he's still that like it It's it's kind of it kind of needs a ton of that like it's just us Well grace. Thank you for coming by and informing us about what is happening in England We always appreciate the reports from the ground very very on the ground That's it going to actual games. No, definitely not just reading things on the computer As long as we're getting ourselves a job Do you do you know that if you go to a game as a reporter in England for the premier league?
You have to write a gamer and the premier league wants to see that you have written a gamer And if you are not writing enough gameers when you really per season they will take away your adaptation I'm crossing it. I'm always gonna be games This is a crazy world. Well, I As I say every time probably more people know You're writing than know our podcast, but nonetheless you might tell the people about where they can find your writing Yeah, yeah, read it read and use that like rice on football calm lots of stuff about Whatever I feel like writing that week. It's gonna be a mail back this week So if you become a paid subscriber right now, I don't know when this podcast come out But you might still have time to get a question.
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