EOT Case Study - Jane - March 2010 - Episode 1b

Second part of the recording with Jane from the 22/03/10.More to come...Jane has a couple of low level lesson plans with Chinese instructions (she lives in Strasbourg and speaks French and Chinese)...there will be more sessions once she has done some exams.Here is the text chat we had between this speaking practice session and then next time we hooked up:[24/03/2010 15:53:09] Jason West: Hey, did you get the links and go there? Do you want to do another session? J[25/03/2010 12:27:30] Janeliu: hey, Jason!!! It's too hot inFrance today...[25/03/2010 12:27:53] Jason West: Hi there[25/03/2010 12:28:04] Janeliu: yes, i downloaded the mp3, it's interesting[25/03/2010 12:28:07] Janeliu: haha...[25/03/2010 12:28:21] Jason West: Oh good, what did you think?[25/03/2010 12:28:44] Janeliu: i speak like a person who come from espace[25/03/2010 12:28:50] Janeliu: universal[25/03/2010 12:28:52] Jason West: LOL[25/03/2010 12:29:04] Janeliu: haha... isn't it?[25/03/2010 12:29:15] Jason West: Well, it's good to hear yoursdelf speaking to someone like me...[25/03/2010 12:29:35] Jason West: if you want to do another one pick a lesson from the free ones and let me know...[25/03/2010 12:29:35] Janeliu: haha, right[25/03/2010 12:29:48] Janeliu: no, i haven't!!![25/03/2010 12:29:57] Janeliu: just you, you are my teacher!!!![25/03/2010 12:30:31] Jason West: What I want you to do it not rely on me...but meet someother English speakers and work with thwem too in short 5 min bursts of practice....[25/03/2010 12:30:46] Janeliu: i found someone in Australia, but he isn't my teacher, just for speaking, but not frequently[25/03/2010 12:31:23] Jason West: Just speaking that it it....that is all I am doing, with some materials...but you need 15-20 people like your friend in Oz...[25/03/2010 12:31:51] Janeliu: yes, but i just bought a headset[25/03/2010 12:32:02] Janeliu: haven't begin yet...[25/03/2010 12:32:10] Jason West: ok, cool, good news...progress! [25/03/2010 12:32:25] Janeliu: thanks!!![25/03/2010 12:32:27] Jason West: It will be much better with a headset[25/03/2010 12:32:36] Janeliu: yes, i think so[25/03/2010 12:32:57] Janeliu: so , why i can't download the chinese plans?[25/03/2010 12:33:05] Janeliu: in out there[25/03/2010 12:33:12] Janeliu: ;([25/03/2010 12:34:09] Jason West: Sorry, remind me, which ones...you should be abkle to get the free ones in Chinese...have you had a proper go (use the same lesson plan number)?[25/03/2010 12:34:40] Janeliu: no, which number?[25/03/2010 12:35:27] Jason West: They all have numbers...if you find the one you can download but want it in Chinese go to the chinese plans ans you should be able to do it[25/03/2010 12:36:15] Janeliu: i'm trying[25/03/2010 12:36:26] Jason West: youtube is down!!!!![25/03/2010 12:37:11] Janeliu: i can use youtube too?[25/03/2010 12:37:26] Jason West: check, see if it is working...[25/03/2010 12:37:44] Janeliu: Sorry this page is available to subscribers only[25/03/2010 12:38:10] Jason West: What lesson plan were you after[25/03/2010 12:39:43] Janeliu: since the SS1-2[25/03/2010 12:40:03] Janeliu: the next one i downloaded, but i want to read the chinese plans[25/03/2010 12:40:32] Jason West: These are the free ones:[25/03/2010 12:40:35] Jason West: SS1: 09 - Shopping, vocabulary, buying questions. 18 - Minor physical complaints/the chemist.SS2: 10 - Making plans, going to. 20 - Lifestyle, would + infinitive.SS3: 04 - Describing objects, adjective order. 19 - Inventions, passive voice.SS4: 03 - Manners, to discuss differences, idioms and phrases. 14 - What had happened, telling stories using past tenses, present perfect v past simple.SS5: 14 - Animals and us, idioms, vocab, our relationship to animals. 19 - Men and women at home, roles.SS6: 12 - Animal instincts, behaviour in the workplace. 20 - Jokes and gender.[25/03/2010 12:41:04] Janeliu: yes, i've imprimered[25/03/2010 12:41:10] Janeliu: already[12/04/2010 12:47:57] Janeliu: hi Jason, nice to see you, how are you?[12/04/2010 12:49:37] Jason West: Hi there, I'm ok, you?[12/04/2010 12:50:29] Janeliu: yes, i'm in vacation[12/04/2010 12:50:54] Jason West: That's nice... :) I am still working... [12/04/2010 12:50:56] Janeliu: scine the last week[12/04/2010 12:51:03] Janeliu: oh lala...[12/04/2010 12:51:19] Janeliu: you haven't the vacation?[12/04/2010 12:51:34] Janeliu: you 're a teacher...[12/04/2010 12:51:35] Jason West: I will in July, but lots to do before then...[12/04/2010 12:51:44] Janeliu: ok...[12/04/2010 12:52:00] Jason West: where were we, did you do another lesson?[12/04/2010 12:52:22] Janeliu: this summer, i'll come back to China to join in the exposition universal[12/04/2010 12:52:25] Janeliu: in Shanghai[12/04/2010 12:52:38] Jason West: that'll be fun![12/04/2010 12:52:57] Janeliu: yes, a little, i was in another city last week[12/04/2010 12:53:32] Janeliu: so i just work a little[12/04/2010 12:55:15] Janeliu: and i haven't speak with my friend because he usually doesn't in internet, i think i must find another one, you know it's difficult to find a nice one[12/04/2010 12:56:50] Jason West: depends how you do it....all you need to do is talk to someone for 3 or 4 minutes using the language in the lesson....then do it with 4 or 5 people...but they need to know you are not going to talk for 20 mins and that you will leave them in peace once you have finished...it is all about human psychology[12/04/2010 12:57:29] Jason West: Use italki, livemocha, mylanguageexchange, etc. and Facebook friend finder apps[12/04/2010 12:57:56] Jason West: There's even a language exchange app on facebook, I know the guy who built it...[12/04/2010 13:00:20] Janeliu: really? where is it? i can find it easily in facebook?[12/04/2010 13:00:32] Jason West: yes[12/04/2010 13:00:56] Jason West: just search on 'language exchange' in Facebook..[12/04/2010 13:01:25] Jason West: Listen to this podcast i just posted...a case study for EOT....tell me what you think when you have listened: http://languagesoutthere.podOmatic.com/entry/2010-04-12T04_14_43-07_00[12/04/2010 13:02:39] Jason West: Hey, I ahve to get on with stuff and eat some lunch first...let me know how it is going and if I can help any more. I think we should try to improve your speaking skills using EOT but you need to tell me and do some work too. [12/04/2010 13:03:53] Janeliu: ok, i'm going to listen and we'll see soon,i'll continue working. have a good lunch[12/04/2010 13:04:14] Jason West: ok, thanks, speak soon :)[12/04/2010 13:04:34] Janeliu: ok, see you\[13/04/2010 10:37:25] Jason West: Hey Jane, how did you get on with the two Chinese version lesson plans I gave you access to (I forgot!) - have you used them as instructed?[15/04/2010 12:15:01] Janeliu: hi Jason :D[15/04/2010 12:16:20] Janeliu: i downloaded the two chinese version lessons, and i already read them, but just for me, not for teaching others.[15/04/2010 12:17:12] Janeliu: i have a examen tomorrow afternoon...see you this weekend, ok?[15/04/2010 12:18:15] Jason West: Did you find them useful/interesting?[15/04/2010 12:18:38] Jason West: They are very low level...[15/04/2010 12:18:47] Janeliu: yes, i think he's a africain, and he has the accent[15/04/2010 12:18:53] Janeliu: really?[15/04/2010 12:19:09] Jason West: eh? who is African?[15/04/2010 12:19:18] Janeliu: i can't understand all because the accent[15/04/2010 12:19:42] Jason West: I', not sure what you are talking about [15/04/2010 12:19:43] Janeliu: the boy who speak with you in the podcast[15/04/2010 12:19:57] Jason West: Ah, no he is Polish..[15/04/2010 12:20:03] Jason West: from Poland...[15/04/2010 12:20:23] Jason West: The podcast is not the lesson...that is just a case study of someone doing some EOT...[15/04/2010 12:20:49] Jason West: He has used some lesson plans and then does the practice with me and other English speakers online..[15/04/2010 12:21:42] Jason West: Anyway, good luck in your exam tomorrow....I might be online at the weekend but I have small kids so it is tricky, i will be online on Monday though...I have to go now (and get my kids)... bye..[15/04/2010 12:22:01] Janeliu: but i have a friend polish, but she hasn't the accent like a africain...[15/04/2010 12:22:37] Janeliu: ok,see you monday[15/04/2010 12:24:05] Jason West: Ok, have a good one...[15/04/2010 12:24:12] Janeliu: 8-)[15/04/2010 12:24:16] Janeliu: toi aussi[15/04/2010 12:24:39] Jason West: merci beaucoup (wave)[15/04/2010 12:24:51] Janeliu: (wave)de rien, bis[25/03/2010 12:41:23] Jason West: sorry? :)[25/03/2010 12:41:38] Jason West: you've downloaded them?[25/03/2010 12:41:53] Janeliu: yes, and already in paper[25/03/2010 12:42:44] Jason West: ok, if you want them with Chinese instructions you can only get the SS1 and SS2 with Chinese. Just go to the Chinese section when you are logged in and download them.[25/03/2010 12:43:25] Janeliu: ok,,,,,,,[25/03/2010 12:43:46] Jason West: I just checked, they are set up ok..[25/03/2010 12:43:58] Janeliu: i don't need the SS1-2 in chinese, because i understood[25/03/2010 12:44:51] Jason West: Ah, but they are the only ones in Chinese, for low level learners. The pre-Int (level 3) and above havwe the same instructions/process...just the language is a bit tougher :)[25/03/2010 12:45:36] Jason West: You should be able to understand what to do now having read the ones with Chinese instructions...why not download one and see, it might tell you some stuff you didn't know.[25/03/2010 12:46:16] Janeliu: http://www.languagesoutthere.com/categories/20081107_9[25/03/2010 12:46:33] Janeliu: i want to download some plans in this page[25/03/2010 12:47:03] Janeliu: ok, i understand[25/03/2010 12:47:05] Jason West: You can't :)[25/03/2010 12:47:07] Janeliu: that's ok[25/03/2010 12:47:21] Janeliu: no problem, i can understand[25/03/2010 12:47:27] Janeliu: (chuckle)[25/03/2010 12:47:37] Jason West: They are clsoed for the moment...we are doing some work, just the free stuff is available...[25/03/2010 12:48:18] Janeliu: ok, well, when i got some level, i must pay for after?[25/03/2010 12:48:55] Jason West: Which one do you want next...if I let you have access can I record us doing it and use you as a case study? I think we discussed this didn't we?[25/03/2010 12:49:27] Janeliu: yes, of course, we can, don't worry about that[25/03/2010 12:51:12] Jason West: which one do you want...pick one[25/03/2010 12:51:16] Janeliu: i want to have the chinese lessons, because i forgot what i've studied when i was in China, but i think my english is easy to return, but for speaking....oh la la...[25/03/2010 12:51:46] Jason West: That's exactly what they were designed tio do...good girl! You've got it [25/03/2010 12:51:53] Janeliu: Self Study Beginner Chinese 06[25/03/2010 12:51:55] Jason West: Now which one do you want to use first?[25/03/2010 12:52:01] Jason West: Ok, hang on...[25/03/2010 12:52:11] Janeliu: thsnks a lot Monsieur!!![25/03/2010 12:52:26] Janeliu: what means hang on[25/03/2010 12:52:38] Jason West: wait 2 mins[25/03/2010 12:52:46] Janeliu: ok!!!![25/03/2010 12:56:21] Jason West: what's your email address?[25/03/2010 12:56:46] Janeliu: [email protected][25/03/2010 12:57:05] Janeliu: (talk)[25/03/2010 12:58:21] Janeliu: and this Self Study Beginner Chinese 10[25/03/2010 12:58:25] Janeliu: that's all[25/03/2010 12:58:50] Jason West: Ok, hang on...scribd is slow today[25/03/2010 12:59:20] Janeliu: because when i went to BadenBaden, there were not so many german speak french, so i must speak english...[25/03/2010 12:59:24] Janeliu: catastophe...[25/03/2010 12:59:47] Janeliu: that's ok....[25/03/2010 13:02:11] Jason West: Just send you an email...[25/03/2010 13:02:21] Janeliu: ok, thanks a lot!!![25/03/2010 13:02:28] Janeliu: so what we can do now?[25/03/2010 13:03:01] Janeliu: oh yeh!! i received it !![25/03/2010 13:03:05] Jason West: Nothing, I have to go and you need to do the lessons offline with a dictionary....print and write...another email coming in a moment...[25/03/2010 13:03:38] Janeliu: ok! i'll do them!!!![25/03/2010 13:04:29] Janeliu: coolllllllllllllllll[25/03/2010 13:04:56] Jason West: Just print, work, I can't remember if they need audio, don't think so, but let me know and I will give you access to those files...[25/03/2010 13:05:41] Janeliu: thank again, you are tres gentil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'll do my best!!![25/03/2010 13:06:22] Jason West: Right, I have to go now... have fun and speak soon. Can you keep a diary of how you feel about using them, why you are using these low level ones,, what you think of them and how useful they are...then we will record our practice sessions and aslo reciord you conversations with other English speaking friends....but follow the instructions carefully. Ok, bye for now.[25/03/2010 13:07:14] Janeliu: ok, i'll do what you said[25/03/2010 13:07:28] Janeliu: have a nice day, see you soon[25/03/2010 13:07:34] Jason West: see you