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English Out There
by Languages Out There
Out There is a hugely effective way to learn to speak English. Listen to me and other EOT teachers working with learners like you from around the world...can you see and hear it is a different kind of process? Listen to me talking with other educators about English language learning in the 21st century. EOT involves using some unique learning content before having focused and effective learning conversations . It gets you using new language with fluent and native speakers...and it works and is a lot of fun! NEW! Now you can learn to speak English with founder Jason West who is inviting frustrated English learners who think they will never learn to speak English comfortably to work with him one-to-one.
Episodes
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Episode 11: Exploding The Myth of ELT Episode 11 - Delusional, Scared and Self Important People in ELT and Education in General
That's rather a challening title isn't it? Well, Judy, Caroline and myself all really don't like to call ourselves "teachers" because, as you will hear if you listen, we feel the word doesn't describe what we do and is sort of obsolete in today's world. Are you wedded to the notion that…
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Episode 10: Exploding The Myth of ELT - Episode 10 - Caprice on EOT Summer School - Context - Personalisation
This week Caroline and I talk with our special guest Caprice Jackson, the director of the English Out There summer school. Caprice has been running it every year since 2009 and has a wealth of knowledge about languages, language learning, teaching English (in a London further education college)…
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Episode 9: Exploding The Myth of ELT - Episode 9 - Learning Outcomes pt 2 + Innovation & Marketing in ELT
This week Caroline wanted to say a bit more on formal learning outcomes in mainstream education leading into ELT and how we both find it perpetually surprising that the billions of English learners are, in our view, being not only let down but, worse, blamed for their failure to speak by the ELT...
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Episode 8: Exploding The Myth of ELT Episode 8 - Judy Thompson re Context, Educational Systemic Outcomes and Autism
We've got Judy back! Yay! This one is fairly broad ranging. At the start Judy responds to Caroline and Jason's discussion in episode 7 about context in learning English and other topics then the three discuss teaching and global systemic educational outcomes and how learners are actually...
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Episode 7: Exploding The Myth of ELT - Episode 7 - Educational Indoctrination & Learning Context
So, after a week away due to some 'field activities' by Jason, Caroline and Jason discuss learners conventional perceptions of what an English language course is and what they perceive as the level of indoctrination suffered by many many learners around the world and how this affects their...
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Episode 6: Exploding The Myth of ELT - Episode 6 - Patterns and English Language Learning
"Pattern Transfer = Language" - Listen to Caroline Swinton, Judy Thompson and Jason West discuss patterns in English language teaching and learning and how you can use the human brain's natural language acquisition ability to dramatically improve the speaking and writing ability of your students....
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Episode 5: Exploding The Myth of ELT - Episode 5 - Judy Thompson Helps Discuss The Future of Teaching As We Know It
International educational truth-monger Judy Thompson, author of English is Crazy and The Backpacker's Guide to Teaching English, joins Caroline and me on the podcast...yay! We do the intros and then get stuck into the general malaise of teaching (including teaching English) as we know it. It is a...
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Episode 4: Exploding The Myth of ELT - Episode 4 - Practice, Misunderstanding, Coping and Corporatisation
In this episode Caroline brings up the big issue of English learners not understanding language during speaking practice and how she, Judy Thompson and her "English is Crazy" book, and others, approach it and try to fix it. Jason has his own slightly different slant on the problem and, in the...
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Episode 3: Exploding The Myth of ELT - Episode 3 - Economics, Efficacy and Effortless Personalisation for Everyone Who Wants to Speak English
Is there (or has there been) a post-colonial cash cow maintaining the ELT status quo? Listen to Jason West and Caroline Swinton discuss teacher/student ratios, relationship based personalisation, how the two affect speaking practice and their impact upon English course effectiveness and,...
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Episode 2: Exploding The Myth of ELT - Episode 2 - How to Practise Speaking English Effectively
Millions upon millions of dedicated English learners around the world are spending hours and hours of their lives desperately trying to practise speaking English and failing to do it in an effective way. This is not some glib off-the-cuff remark it is a fact. Look at this Facebook group,...
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Episode 1: Exploding The Myth of ELT - Episode 1 - What is The Myth?
NEW PROGRAMME - Listen to Caroline Swinton (experienced English teacher and professional interpreter and translator of Italian) and Jason West (creator of EOT) begin their discussion around what they feel is the myth of ELT which has been prompted by their considerable experience of using the...
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Episode 130: Jason Working with Bernd - Before & After 12 Sessions
I have a lot of great English conversations with Bernd. He is German but lives in Brazil. He wanted to become more fluent and natural with his English speaking. This is us talking in our second lesson and then in our twelfth. Can you hear a difference? :-) Bernd used the English Out There…
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Anthony Lesson 4 (Upper Intermediate - Childhood Memories)
So, this was my last session with Anthony, which was a shame as we get on really well but he doesn't need me any more, he knows what to do, has already improved and will go on improving. Today we started with me talking about the psychology of acquiring English speaking skills which Anthony…
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Anthony Lesson 3 (Upper Intermediate - Stereotypes)
This was a fun conversation as usual. Stereotypes and specifically English stereotypes...so it was an amazing coincidence that I'd just shared a very provocative image of Prince William that a friend posted on Facebook in outrage...
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Anthony Lesson 2 (Upper Intermediate 2 - The Internet)
This was a fun chat with Anthony, a self-confessed geek. He did well and tailored the questions to me specifically because he knows I do a lot of online work. We discussed big data, bitcoin and android apps as well as his work in Australia for local government. I think he's pretty busy so finding...
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Anthony Lesson 1 (Upper Intermediate 2 - Holidays)
This was Anton's first proper EOT session. He will do it with me each time first and then speak to a two or three other practice partners. Record everything and listen again...he's pretty good so I will try to pick up on things and be a bit tough. He just wants a polish! :-)
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Anthony's Before clip Sept 17th 2013
Anthony found me via the English Out There Facebook page (http://Facebook.com/EnglishOutThere) and he'd listened to some of my recordings with other learners. This is our first (before) conversation. We are going to use the SS5 upper-int course.
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Before and After - Noemi (French) - London, summer 2012 (30 hour course)
Here's Noemi before and after her short English Out There course in central London...again the product of ten classes that were conducted completely without the use of a classroom! Have a listen, can you hear a difference in the way Noemi speaks?
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Interview with Group Leader and French English teacher...Angelina
This is the first time since we started English Out There eleven years ago that we have taught it in London using no classrooms whatsoever. On the last day of a group's two week course (10 lesson/30 hours), as they were getting ready to say goodbye, I had a brief chat with Angelina one of the…
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Before and After - Charles (French) - London, summer 2012 (30 hour course)
Charles is a lovely bloke and although his English wasn't great he volunteered to be recorded at the start and end of his EOT course in London. This year we decided not to use any classrooms at all to teach EOT. We wanted to stimulate the students' minds a bit more in the input stage (at the…
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Before and After 20 English lessons using EOT SS4 Intermediate - Liliana from Colombia
So, this is the same 'before' clip from our first conversation where Liliana dries up a bit and you can hear the nervousness in her voice edited next to a passage from her last session with me, the lesson on dreams and dreaming. In the second clip she controls the conversation and talks with…
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EOT FAQ - English Teacher Q&A Session - Tanya in Ukraine
This was a fun chat with English teacher Tanya in the Ukraine. She asked some really good questions about the way I talk with learners on Skype when they do the first speaking practice from each lesson with me. Tanya especially picked up on the way I try to do correction. I explained that it is...
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Lesson 20, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Dreams
This was a great topic and we shared some of our dream experiences with each other...and some very serious and sad topics came up. Life can be terribly tragic sometimes, for no good reason. Well, that's it, the end of the course and I now need to create a before and after podcast of Liliana to…
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Lesson 19, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Health
Well this session turned into quite an intimate conversation with both us talking openly about some about health issues we had (and still have). Health is something lots of people don't like to talk about in detail or even face up to. Life (and living) can be challenging but it is better to share...
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What English Out There has done for me...Liliana from Colombia.
This is the last 10 minutes of our lesson 18 session today and I thought it was such a nice chat and Liliana sounded so happy with her EOT course that I wanted to create a separate shorter clip to post online. What we talk about here is what is possible if you just do what Liliana did and follow...
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Lesson 18, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Queuing
Ah, the old queuing lesson, it might need to be updated a bit for the uber-digital age but it still makes sense and produces a good conversation. Liliana is really coming on very well now, the rhythm is there now too :-) We had a laugh and at the end it was great to listen to her thoughts about…
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Lesson 17, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - The Lottery - conditionals
I got a bit bored at the end as Liliana kept talking about how wonderful Paul McCartney was for an 80 year old! (he's actually 70 this year) :-) This was a good chat actually...we did the language from the lesson and veered off on a few tangents taking in accents, travel, food and, of course…
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EOT FAQ - English Teacher Q&A Session - Simon in France
Simon contacted me very enthusiastically a week or so ago. He lives in France and have been teaching in the state education system. We had a great chat about how English is taught there (pretty much like everywhere else it turns out) and how so many people still can't speak comfortably after…
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Lesson 16, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Preparing food
Liliana's favourite Colombian dish is Ajiaco and she tells me what ingredients i need and how to cook it. I tell her how to cook roast leg of lamb with garlic and rosemary, minted new potatoes and spring greens (v British!). Then we talked about a Russian English teacher whose group Liliana has...
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EOT FAQ - English Teacher Q&A Session - Harim in Morocco
Harim is in Casablanca! He teaches English in state high school amd in a private English school. He has 20 years experience and saw me present at CO12 (online education conference). The questions he asked were great and different from other teachers...because he's planning to start his own…
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Lesson 15, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Musical preferences
Springsteen fan Liliana tells me why she loves Born in the USA the album and the song by The Boss. Then I explain (badly) why probably my favourite artist is (or was, I have lots now) Frank Zappa! An enjoyable and fairly short conversation in which Liliana manages to twig that I think she's…
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Lesson 14, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Using past tenses 'had had'
Liliana and I talk about things that surprised us or troubled us in the past. She 'lost' a watch in dubious surroundings and I had a bike nicked from under my nose. Good work Lilian, you spoke a lot today!
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Lesson 13, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Weather and How it Makes You feel
The weather...great topic for me at the moment, Scotland has been experiencing 20C+ this week and they all think it is the end of the world because for more than two consecutive days a big orange ball has been the sky. It's unseasonally warm where I live too, but I'm not complaining! We had to be...
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American English teacher in Japan asks about EOT - FAQs
Do you teach English in Japan and find that your students simply make no progress with their speaking skills, no matter what you try? Do you want to finally help them to speak more comfortably and at the same time have a break from them? :-) Shannon, a native New Yorker, went to Japan twenty…
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Lesson 12, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Jobs
This is a long one, I think Liliana helped me to get some frustration out, so it was reverse therapy tonight! She started asking me the questions from the lesson and we got sidetracked into the global ELT industry, English courses that don't work (i.e. the majority) and it was fascinating to hear...
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Lesson 11, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Liliana's English learning history
This recording does not have any language from lesson 11 in it! I edited the audio and am just posting our extended conversation about Liliana's English learning history (the time she has studied and the courses she has taken). I found it very interesting to learn about this. She has done a lot…
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Before and After 10 English lessons using EOT SS4 Intermediate - Liliana from Colombia
Listen to Liliana speak to me before her English Out There course started and then again after 10 lessons. She self-studies the Intermediate SS4 course materials, about one lesson per week, and then does the Out There task (speaking practice) with me on Skype and one or two other English speakers...
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Lesson 10, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Beauty (adjectives to describe)
Well, this was a bit of a grilling for me! :-) I think Liliana was a bit surprised by my attitudes to casual sex when single and marriage and relationships. Which all came out of the topic and the tasks in the lesson. We learnt a lot about each other and it was fun (we always have a laugh). In...
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EOT FAQ - Free Teacher Skype Q&A Session
When you buy some EOT teacher's materials you can have a free Skype session to ask me any questions that you might have. This is me talking to Kevin, an American English teacher based in Colombia. In this recording we discuss: How EOT works How to teach using the materials (synchronous teaching)...
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First EOT session with Monika from Slovakia
Monika did very well for her first time talking to me....but she didn't record the conversation! :-( Luckily I did, and so this is how I am helping Monika to listen to the recording of our conversation (which is crucial to her language development). Just download this free application Monika:...
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Lesson 9, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Travel advice - modals
Liliana was on good form. We had another long session 9I want to keep them shorter to be like most speaking sessions, but she is very good at getting me talking, she claims this is because she is Colombian!). Liliana described some parts of Bogota and the tings that go on there, focusing on food...
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EOT FAQ - A typical enquiry on Skype?
This learner has sent me a contact request on Skype to: EnglishOutThere I have accepted it and she has just called me without any introductory text message. I rarely answer these calls but I picked this one up to see what happened and to provide a podcast FAQ. Have a listen. Then the learner…
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Lesson 8, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Interesting events in the past
Liliana had some connection troubles so this is the second MP3 of four..but it includes her speaking about memorable events in her past and then I talk about one of mine...shame about the tech/headset thing but you can hear everything OK in this recording until it stops. Liliana is improving…
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New EOT Teacher Skype Q&A Session - Teacher Paul in Berlin
When you buy some EOT teacher's materials you can talk to me for 30 mins on Skype for free! :-) I've done quite a few of these and they are always different but it just occurred to me to RECORD THEM so that other teachers can listen. I should have done this ages ago...doh! This is me having a…
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Lesson 7, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Magazines and Newspapers (present perfect)
Ha! This is an interesting session, not least because Liliana and I ran into a bit of an issue. Towards the end of the session (2nd recording used here, we got cut off once) she asks me to explain the present perfect tense and I refused. Why? Well, listen to the clip for more detail but the basis...
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Lesson 6, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - The past history of a town or city
Wow! Long one...but it was very enjoyable despite my tiredness (I worked late last night) and Liliana was very motivated by the topic of the lesson, so much that she talked about re-reading Colombian history as a result of the lesson. It made her think, which is great. There's a lot of...
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Lesson 5, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Shopping
This was fun and I was a bit surpised by the way Liliana approached the speaking task...she asked me to take part in a role play and ignored the task as it was written in the lesson. That's fine! If Liliana (or you) want to get the speaking going in a different way just make sure your task covers...
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EOT FAQ - Finding and practising with people online?
Nina EnglishBrno who uses EOT with her students just texted me and added me to a call on Skype with one of her students, Sabrina from France. Sabrina said she is quite shy and that she was worried about contacting 'lots' of people on social platforms to ask them to help her to practise her…
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Lesson 4, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Technology and possibilities
Our first session after the Christmas/New year break...Liliana has new broadband which seemed to work fin but her laptop cut us off in the middle once or two...I had limited time to talk too (which is good for her discipline when she talks to other people...remember don't talk too long and always...
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Lesson 3, Level 4 (Intermediate) - Liliana (ISCSE FB group) - Manners
Liliana has not got internet access at home because she is changing her internet provider to get a better connection (so she can talk more and the poor connection interfered with the MP3 recorder, it kept stopping due to a weak connection). So...this was a long long session because I wanted her…
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Out There is a hugely effective way to learn to speak English. Listen to me and other EOT teachers working with learners like you from around the world...can you see and hear it is a different kind of process? Listen to me talking with other educators about English language learning in the 21st century. EOT involves using some unique learning content before having focused and effective learning conversations . It gets you using new language with fluent and native speakers...and it works and is a lot of fun! NEW! Now you can learn to speak English with founder Jason West who is inviting frustrated English learners who think they will never learn to speak English comfortably to work with him one-to-one.
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