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EPISODE · Dec 1, 2025 · 1H 36M

Ep.11: The Blitzing Speed of Beethoven’s 5th — and What It Destroys

from Authentic Sound Podcast · host Wim Winters

In this episode of the Authentic Sound Podcast, Stefan and I dive into the explosive opening of Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony — but through two radically different tempo worlds. We compare our Whole Beat version (performed in Czerny’s brilliant piano transcription) with John Eliot Gardiner’s modern single-beat interpretation. The contrast is shockingly wide. At times, it feels as if we are listening to two different compositions.We talk about why this symphony is perhaps the ultimate test case for Whole Beat thinking: a version full of weight, structure, and intensity versus a fast, tightly driven modern performance that almost turns the famous ta-ta-ta-TAA into a triplet.Along the way we explore:• why Beethoven’s 2/4 notation in eighth-note alla breve is almost always misunderstood today• how Allegro con brio becomes something entirely different at modern speeds• why early 19th-century critics were already complaining about musicians playing too fast• how tempo changes the emotional architecture of the entire symphony• and what this tells us about the lost performance world Beethoven actually knewAt the end of the episode, we play our full first minute of the Fifth — exactly as we believe Beethoven imagined it. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wimwinters.substack.com/subscribe

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