Ep 11 - Toward What Matters: Sarah Markowitz on CBT, Values, and Choice episode artwork

EPISODE · May 21, 2026 · 1H 5M

Ep 11 - Toward What Matters: Sarah Markowitz on CBT, Values, and Choice

from I Hate You. What's For Dinner? · host Gillian Boudreau & Rob Galligan

There are many ways to do therapy, and many reasons why people gravitate to certain modalities, both as patients and practitioners. And while there are some who will insist that their way is the way, we’re happy to acknowledge where our preferred methods overlap and diverge with others, and how different therapies can help people arrive at the same place of better self-understanding and moving through the world with more ease. Today, we’re chatting with Gillian’s longtime friend and Cognitive Behavioral Therapist extraordinaire, Sarah Markowitz. We get into what’s similar in CBT and a psychodynamic approach, what’s different, and why these schools of therapy tend to appeal to certain people. We also talk about the tricky balancing act between direction and curiosity for therapists, educators, and parents when engaging kids on behavioral change.Listen to the full episode to hear:How Sarah investigates resistance to change from a stance that is both directive and client-centeredHow building experience as therapists leads to more overlap in our approaches than notThe layers of thoughts, rules, and core beliefs that CBT uncovers over timeHow both therapists and parenting advice have shifted to be more descriptive than directiveHow Sarah’s logical, but not rigid, household, along with swimming, summer camp, and horses, shaped her ability to self-regulate and her default state under stress Learn more about Sarah Markowitz:MindWell PsychologyLearn more about I Hate You. What’s For Dinner?Learn more about Gillian Boudreau, PhD.:WebsiteInstagram @clearconnectionpsychologyLearn more about Rob Galligan, PhD.:Instagram @dr.robert.galliganResources:EP 06 - Trickle Up!: Ron Williams On Purpose, Legacy, And Spreading AbundanceAcceptance and commitment therapyDialectical behavior therapyMarsha M. LinehanAaron BeckAdult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents: How to Heal from Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involved Parents, Lindsay C. Gibson PsyD Dr. Ross GreeneEP 09 - Fear, Resistance, And Flow: Paula Tursi On Letting Parenting HappenEP 08 - Keeping It Authentic (And Surprising): Dr. Matt Morrison On Raising Kids And TherapistsDr. Russ Harris

Episode metadata supplied by the publisher feed · Published May 21, 2026

Embed this episode

NOW PLAYING

Ep 11 - Toward What Matters: Sarah Markowitz on CBT, Values, and Choice

0:00 1:05:40

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

No similar podcasts found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of I Hate You. What's For Dinner??

This episode is 1 hour and 5 minutes long.

When was this I Hate You. What's For Dinner? episode published?

This episode was published on May 21, 2026.

Can I download this I Hate You. What's For Dinner? episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.
URL copied to clipboard!