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EPISODE · Sep 1, 2025 · 1H 2M

Ep. 17 Nico Perrino on FIRE

from We Made This Political Podcast · host Lauren Hall, Lura Forcum, and Nico Perrino

Free Speech Battles and Triumphs: A Conversation with Nico Perrino from FIREJoin us as we chat with Nico Perrino, Executive Vice President of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE). We dive into Nico's journey into free speech advocacy, his work at FIRE, and the organization's evolution. Nico shares thought-provoking insights into the importance of free speech on college campuses, the challenges posed by cancel culture, and how FIRE maintains its nonpartisan stance. We also discuss how free speech principles intersect with parenting and the significance of teaching young people to navigate pluralistic societies. Plus, Nico offers an optimistic look at the future, drawing lessons from historical battles for free expression.00:00 Introduction and Guest Bio01:23 Nico's Journey into Free Speech Advocacy02:57 Fire's Mission and Evolution04:24 The Importance of Free Speech in Democracy07:35 Challenges and Hypocrisy in Free Speech17:09 The Role of Universities in Promoting Free Speech31:43 Ira Glasser's Brooklyn Upbringing32:45 Helicopter Parenting and Moral Dependency34:22 Parenting and Free Speech36:22 Contextual Speech and Social Awareness38:35 Tribalism in Politics and Society41:05 Nonpartisan Movements and Political Discourse46:21 Challenges of Free Speech Advocacy51:10 Navigating Cancel Culture54:55 Curiosity and Understanding in Difficult Conversations59:02 Historical Perspective on Free Expression01:00:00 Conclusion and Optimism for the Future This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wemadethispolitical.substack.com

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Free Speech Battles and Triumphs: A Conversation with Nico Perrino from FIREJoin us as we chat with Nico Perrino, Executive Vice President of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE). We dive into Nico's journey into free speech...

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