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EPISODE · May 1, 2026 · 27 MIN

Ep. 18: At the Edge of the Bomb: Inside Iran’s “War of Wills”

from Atlantic Lens, a Podcast by Marta Dhanis · host Marta Dhanis

The war involving Iran is entering a more dangerous, and more unpredictable, phase. What may look like escalation is, in reality, something more complex: a test of endurance, strategy, and limits.In this wide-ranging conversation episode of Atlantic Lens podcast, MIT’s nuclear weapons expert Jim Walsh - one of the few Westerners to sit across the table from Iranian leadership every single year for the last two decades - joins Marta Dhanis to pull back the curtain on the internal mechanics of Tehran’s decision-making.In this episode:* The “Ricochet” Effect: Why military strikes are reinforcing, rather than extinguishing, Iran’s drive for a nuclear deterrent.* The Death of the Doves: How the current conflict has decimated the voices for diplomacy in Tehran and handed total power to the Revolutionary Guard.* The “Amateur” Problem: Walsh’s blunt assessment of the current U.S. negotiating team and why a “fast resolution” is a “fever dream.”* Persian Civilization vs. Global Pressure: Why threatening a “civilization” (rather than a regime) was the biggest strategic blunder of the year.* What to watch now: negotiations, collapse, or something in between* The Mystery of the Scientists: Jim weighs in on the series of disappearances and deaths currently rocking the nuclear physics community.Key Quotes:“You can blow up a bunch of buildings, but you can’t bomb the knowledge and experience of Iranian engineers out of their heads.”“Once the horse is out of the barn, you have to persuade it to come back in, you can’t force it. Right now, we are reinforcing the exact reasons why they would want the bomb in the first place.”Resources:* Read the companion article here * Watch the full interview and subscribe to the YouTube Channel If you find this reporting valuable, please consider a paid subscription to Atlantic Lens to support independent, boots-on-the-ground journalism. Get full access to Atlantic Lens by Marta Dhanis at atlanticlens.substack.com/subscribe

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