Ep 2: Making space with Jo Dobson

Rick and Jo share their journey of creating space in their lives, emphasising meaningful conversations and the importance of being present. They reflect on how they met, past burnout experiences, the need for balance and self-care, and the benefits of embracing spontaneity over rigid planning. They discuss the challenges of living a pre-programmed life, the value of communication and flexibility, and their transition from being fixers to becoming more aware of their own needs and boundaries. The conversation concludes with a discussion of the significance of men's circles and bridging the gap between men and women. Sound Bites "It's in these conversations where we just get to be real." "Creating space in our lives allows for spontaneity and the opportunity to be present in the moment." "I feel like I can't breathe and like I haven't been seen and I'm slowly being killed." "When I was in Africa, I felt what it was like to be truly free." "I usually explode and just crack it. And I'm learning now that I have to just voice it earlier." Connect with Rick: www.rickwatson.com.au Connect with Jo: https://www.instagram.com/evolve_jodobson/