Ep 318 Interview Sessions with Bethan Laker & Joni Harding | The Leisure Experts - Leading With Heart - A real-life case study in heart-centred business episode artwork

EPISODE · Jan 21, 2026 · 1H 24M

Ep 318 Interview Sessions with Bethan Laker & Joni Harding | The Leisure Experts - Leading With Heart - A real-life case study in heart-centred business

from Always Better than Yesterday with Ryan Hartley | A Podcast for Heart Centred Leaders · host Ryan Hartley

Bethan Laker and Joni Harding are the Directors of The Leisure Experts — a consultancy and education business serving the leisure, aquatics and physical activity industry across the UK and Ireland.The Leisure Experts was born from a deep care for the industry and a belief that it deserves better — better leadership, better support, and better experiences for both people and communities. They work alongside operators, teams and organisations to deliver consultancy, training, operational support and transformation, always grounded in real-world experience and practical impact.At their core, Bethan and Joni are committed to creating positive, meaningful experiences in and around water — experiences that save lives, build confidence, and open access to opportunity. They believe this happens not through fear-based systems, hierarchy or box-ticking, but through heart-centred leadership, culture, trust and human connection.This episode is a real-life case study of what it looks like to live and lead the heart-centred way — building a business from purpose, integrity and courage, while walking alongside an industry they genuinely love.In this episode, you will hear:• How The Leisure Experts was born from heartache, purpose and a deep love for the leisure and aquatics industry• What it really looks like to lead and build a business the heart-centred way — beyond theory and into lived experience• Why creating positive experiences in and around water is about joy, belonging and opportunity, not fear• How Bethan and Joni build culture, trust and teams by putting people before policy and humanity before hierarchy• The courage required to do business differently — and the unexpected “miracles” that emerge when you doThose with ears, let them hear.Always love,RyanConnect with The Leisure ExpertsWebsite: https://theleisureexperts.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theleisureexperts Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theleisureexperts LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-leisure-experts/ Bethan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethan-laker-40350013a Joni: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joni-h-954442174 Connect with Always Better Than YesterdayWebsite: https://abty.co.uk/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alwaysbetterthanyesterdayuk/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/abty/Men’s Group: https://abty.co.uk/akiraJoin our mailing list: https://abty.co.uk/contactSign up for coaching: https://abty.co.uk/coachingPlease email questions and reflections to:[email protected]#TheLeisureExperts #HeartCentredLeadership #HeartCentredBusiness #CorporateCulture #HeartCentredCulture

Bethan Laker and Joni Harding are the Directors of The Leisure Experts — a consultancy and education business serving the leisure, aquatics and physical activity industry across the UK and Ireland.The Leisure Experts was born from a deep care for the industry and a belief that it deserves better — better leadership, better support, and better experiences for both people and communities. They work alongside operators, teams and organisations to deliver consultancy, training, operational support and transformation, always grounded in real-world experience and practical impact.At their core, Bethan and Joni are committed to creating positive, meaningful experiences in and around water — experiences that save lives, build confidence, and open access to opportunity. They believe this happens not through fear-based systems, hierarchy or box-ticking, but through heart-centred leadership, culture, trust and human connection.This episode is a real-life case study of what it looks like to live and lead the heart-centred way — building a business from purpose, integrity and courage, while walking alongside an industry they genuinely love.In this episode, you will hear:• How The Leisure Experts was born from heartache, purpose and a deep love for the leisure and aquatics industry• What it really looks like to lead and build a business the heart-centred way — beyond theory and into lived experience• Why creating positive experiences in and around water is about joy, belonging and opportunity, not fear• How Bethan and Joni build culture, trust and teams by putting people before policy and humanity before hierarchy• The courage required to do business differently — and the unexpected “miracles” that emerge when you doThose with ears, let them hear.Always love,RyanConnect with The Leisure ExpertsWebsite: https://theleisureexperts.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theleisureexperts Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theleisureexperts LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-leisure-experts/ Bethan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethan-laker-40350013a Joni: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joni-h-954442174 Connect with Always Better Than YesterdayWebsite: https://abty.co.uk/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alwaysbetterthanyesterdayuk/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/abty/Men’s Group: https://abty.co.uk/akiraJoin our mailing list: https://abty.co.uk/contactSign up for coaching: https://abty.co.uk/coachingPlease email questions and reflections to:[email protected]#TheLeisureExperts #HeartCentredLeadership #HeartCentredBusiness #CorporateCulture #HeartCentredCulture

NOW PLAYING

Ep 318 Interview Sessions with Bethan Laker & Joni Harding | The Leisure Experts - Leading With Heart - A real-life case study in heart-centred business

0:00 1:24:27

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

MG Show MG Show The MG Show, hosted by Jeffrey Pedersen and Shannon Townsend, is a leading alternative media platform dedicated to uncovering the truth behind today’s most pressing political issues. Launched in 2019, the show has grown exponentially, offering unfiltered insights, comprehensive research, and real-time analysis. With a commitment to independent journalism and factual integrity, the MG Show empowers its audience with knowledge and encourages active participation in the political discourse. Ask A Spaceman Archives - 365 Days of Astronomy Ask A Spaceman Archives - 365 Days of Astronomy Podcasting Astronomy Every Day of the Year French Your Way Jessica: Native French teacher founder of French Your Way Boost your French listening skills and test your comprehension with this one of a kind series of podcasts. Get the chance to listen to a real conversation between native speakers talking at normal speed AND customise your learning experience through carefully designed sets of questions (2 levels of difficulty) available for download at www.frenchvoicespodcast.com. All interviews also come with the transcript. French teacher Jessica interviews native speakers of French from around the world who share a bit of their life and passion. Where else would you meet in one same place a French yoga teacher based in Melbourne, a soap manufacturer from Provence, or a couple cycling around the world? That Hoarder: Overcome Compulsive Hoarding That Hoarder Hoarding disorder is stigmatised and people who hoard feel vast amounts of shame. This podcast began life as an audio diary, an anonymous outlet for somebody with this weird condition. That Hoarder speaks about her experiences living with compulsive hoarding, she interviews therapists, academics, researchers, children of hoarders, professional organisers and influencers, and she shares insight and tips for others with the problem. Listened to by people who hoard as well as those who love them and those who work with them, Overcome Compulsive Hoarding with That Hoarder aims to shatter the stigma, share the truth and speak openly and honestly to improve lives.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Always Better than Yesterday with Ryan Hartley | A Podcast for Heart Centred Leaders?

This episode is 1 hour and 24 minutes long.

When was this Always Better than Yesterday with Ryan Hartley | A Podcast for Heart Centred Leaders episode published?

This episode was published on January 21, 2026.

What is this episode about?

Bethan Laker and Joni Harding are the Directors of The Leisure Experts — a consultancy and education business serving the leisure, aquatics and physical activity industry across the UK and Ireland.The Leisure Experts was born from a deep care for...

Can I download this Always Better than Yesterday with Ryan Hartley | A Podcast for Heart Centred Leaders episode?

Yes, you can download this episode by clicking the download button on the episode player, or subscribe to the podcast in your preferred podcast app for automatic downloads.
URL copied to clipboard!