Ep. 42: Anna Kirin, how are you affected by the war?

Leaders Talk – with Anna Kirin. Anna Kirin is a business Leader, the president of CBSD thunderbird, an organization that educates young Russian leaders, and serves on the board of the American chamber of Commerce. She is also a very brave woman who takes a risk to talk to us about the war in Ukraine in this podcast. In this episode of Leaders Talk, she talks with Karsten about her role in CBSD and how she became the president of this organization. She tells us about how she started her life as a refugee, grew up in the US and then came back in her twenties to rediscover Russia. She also gives us another inside view of the war, talks about how Russia has evolved as a country and reflects on whether the effects of the sanctions are going in the wrong direction. The topics in the podcast with Anna Kirin: - Anna tells us about being the president of CBSD (4:45) - She tells her refugee story and the story of her mother (7:15) - She answers Karsten's question about the atmosphere in Russia when she came back in her twenties (18:00) - She tells us how she is affected by the war (38:05) - Short Announcement – free business coaching for people who had to flee you Ukraine (47:00) - Anna talks about her feelings about this war and how it differs from the annexation of Crimea in 2014 (49:35) - She reflects on the usefulness of the sanctions (1:09:00) - Anna thinks about her four children and the future (1:27:50) What are your reflections? Let us know your thoughts in the comments. If you have suggestions for inspiring guests at Leaders Talk, feel free to email us at [email protected] Guest: Anna Kirin Moderation: Karsten Drath Production & Editing: Hannah Jandl & Daniela Magnani Hüller Research & Preparation: Tabea Zeller & Lena Wokurka