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EPISODE · Jul 20, 2026 · 33 MIN

Ep. 48: What is the Message of Tisha B’Av?

from In Such A Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership & Meaning · host Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Londy

Rebuilding can only begin once we honor our losses—so what can the most sorrowful day on the Jewish calendar teach us about hope and resilience? In this powerful episode, Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy dive into the meaning, history, and contemporary relevance of Tisha B'Av. They explore the motifs of destruction and rebirth embedded in Jewish tradition, the deeply human need for collective mourning, and how Tisha B'Av acts as a transformative gateway to self-reflection and change. With personal stories, practical insights, and a look at shifting observance in the Reform movement, the rabbis offer rich inspiration for finding meaning—both in grief and in rebuilding.Timestamped Overview00:00 Welcome and Setting the Context00:23 The Nine Days and Tisha B'Av: What and Why01:38 Historical Significance & National Grief03:43 Personal Memories and Experiences06:12 Senseless Hatred vs. Senseless Love07:09 Tisha B'Av as a 12-Step Program for Renewal10:44 Communal Mourning and Human Nature11:17 A Powerful Shared Tisha B'Av Story14:18 How Do We Observe Tisha B'Av?15:44 The Structure and Meaning of Eicha (Lamentations)17:32 Order, Structure, and Surviving Chaos20:27 Destruction as a Catalyst for Change21:26 The Reform Movement’s Relationship with Tisha B'Av23:25 Metaphor, Literalism, and Personal Belief25:01 Processing Sadness and Grief Today27:36 Sadness, Shabbat Nachamu, and the Turn Toward Hope29:44 Consolation, Hope, and Personal Reflections32:17 Tisha B'Av’s Enduring Antidote for Modern Times33:12 Wishing Listeners a Meaningful Tisha B'Av and Closing

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