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In Such A Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership & Meaning
by Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Londy
IN SUCH A TIME is a podcast from Temple Beth El of Northern Westchester, hosted by Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Londy. Through candid conversations and thoughtful reflection, the rabbis explore what it means to live, lead, and seek meaning through a Jewish lens. From personal stories to pressing issues, each episode invites listeners into a timely dialogue about Jewish life — in such a time as this.
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Ep. 55: Is there a thing as excessive empathy?
Finding balance between caring for others and safeguarding our own well-being is not just a seasonal challenge—it's a lifelong dance. But can empathy ever go too far? In this thoughtful Rosh Hashanah episode, Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy examine the power and perils of empathy—personally, communally, and even politically. From dissecting “The Giving Tree” to exploring boundaries in relationships, atonement, and social justice movements, the rabbis explore whether “radical empathy” can turn self-erasure into a vice. Hear powerful insights on Jewish text, real-life dilemmas, and why sometimes caring deeply means caring for ourselves, too.Timestamped Overview00:00 The role of empathy during the High Holidays00:20 Rosh Hashanah and questions on the limits of empathy01:10 The Giving Tree as a cautionary tale02:08 Radical giving versus the necessity of boundaries03:43 Jewish historical perspective on giving and abuse04:46 Boundaries, self-preservation, and critique of radical empathy07:18 Is radical empathy a superpower or Achilles’ heel?08:00 Maimonides on forgiveness and setting limits11:00 Biblical examples: Jacob, Joseph, and trust12:53 On showing up for others without losing oneself15:23 Radical empathy as a modern social phenomenon17:25 When empathy becomes narcissism19:56 Empathy in everyday dilemmas: giving vs boundaries23:32 Directing empathy toward causes vs people close to us24:29 Empathy for others vs self; balancing acts25:10 Family boundaries and ethical permission26:15 The challenge—and necessity—of forgiveness28:15 Ritual, release, and catharsis during the High Holidays29:12 Empathy, forgiveness, and self-care for the new year29:46 Closing and next steps for the community
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Ep. 54: How Are You Thinking About this Year’s Rosh Hashanah?
Discover why the High Holidays aren’t just about reflection—they’re also an opportunity for renewal, forgiveness, and connection to community and self. What does it mean to face a season of atonement and new beginnings? Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy unpack the tension, joy, and gravity of Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, exploring personal practices, communal rituals, parenting paradoxes, and the deep lessons found in tradition. This episode dives into the month of Elul, the dance between universalism and particularism, and the challenge of genuine self-forgiveness—all while inviting listeners to ready their hearts and minds for the year ahead.Timestamped Overview:00:00 Welcome and introduction00:20 Preparing for the High Holidays: personal reflections01:43 Setting intentions during Elul02:39 Gratitude, community, and anticipation04:15 The structure of the Jewish calendar & holiday sequence06:09 Universal vs. particular themes of Rosh Hashanah08:29 Community, renewal, and self-improvement10:54 Personal vs. communal dimensions of atonement14:49 The pursuit of self-reflection and change17:11 Behind the bimah: clergy experiences18:12 The struggle and impact of apologies21:10 Parenting, authenticity, and forced apology23:17 Forgiving oneself and finding balance25:19 Personal rituals and spiritual motifs26:47 Living the tension: Avinu Malkeinu and holding opposites27:53 Closing remarks and credits
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Ep. 53: Are We Allowed to Comment on Ariana Grande?
How can we balance genuine care with respect for privacy, especially in the public sphere? In this thoughtful episode, Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy delve into the boundaries of concern, critique, and support, using the recent controversy surrounding Ariana Grande’s public health and body image as a lens. Drawing from Jewish wisdom and sharing personal and communal experiences, they reflect on how best to intervene—or step back—when someone may be in distress, whether they are celebrities, colleagues, or congregants. Listeners will gain insights on responsible feedback, the importance of an inner circle of support, and creating communities that nurture rather than critique.Episode Overview00:00 Introduction to the episode and hosts00:20 Exploring privacy, public concern, and the Ariana Grande controversy01:26 Societal pressures and commentary on appearance02:29 Do public figures sacrifice their privacy?03:10 Personal experiences with public scrutiny—rabbis and celebrities alike04:09 Reflecting on Britney Spears, Amy Winehouse, and public intervention05:29 When and how should the public intervene to help?06:18 Jewish models of giving feedback: Korach vs. Yitro08:22 Context of Ariana Grande’s music video and its commentary09:49 When support becomes harmful—personal story from Rabbi Leora Londy12:28 Role of feedback in the rabbinate and community settings13:50 Productive vs. hurtful feedback; handling comments on appearance15:30 How staff and colleagues can offer care responsibly17:47 Hierarchies, trust, and appropriate workplace feedback19:12 Congregant feedback—when it helps, when it doesn’t21:13 Appreciating honest, constructive criticism22:49 Fostering a community of supportive feedback23:37 Body image pressures, addiction, and the responsibilities of clergy26:14 Protocols for supporting congregants in distress27:27 The social pressures of high standards and conformity28:27 Addressing addiction and providing resources29:11 A direct message to listeners: you’re not alone, reach out29:41 Outro and how to stay connected
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Ep. 52: How Do We Tune In To Cries For Help?
When we allow ourselves to be vulnerable, we discover the true strength of community. What happens when support systems fail those most desperately in need? In this powerful episode, Rabbi Leora Londy and Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe tackle the deeply complex subject of women's mental health, inspired by the devastating Lindsay Clancy case. Drawing on personal experience, Jewish tradition, and real-world community dynamics, they explore questions of responsibility, stigma, and the roles we all play in supporting each other—especially when appearances hide real pain. The conversation offers lessons in compassion, the risks of stoicism, and practical steps for fostering genuine support within our communities.Timestamped Overview00:00 Conversation introduction and framing: women's mental health00:30 Personal stories and the Lindsay Clancy case03:06 Mental health in Judaism: responsibility, the “shoteh,” and moral/legal implications10:02 Effective support: lessons from Israel and peer networks14:09 Stigma, silence, and the Jewish community's challenges16:23 High Holidays, birth, loss, and the spiritual lens19:29 Justice, judgment, and mercy in complex cases22:55 Jewish law, bystanders, and communal accountability24:22 Invitation to seek help and foster true community26:29 Embracing imperfection—linking vulnerability to the High Holidays28:25 Final words: reach out, support, and moving forward together
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Ep. 51: What Jewish Lessons Can we Take From the Fauci Hearing?
Engaging in respectful, challenging conversations—even when we disagree—can strengthen our communities and deepen our understanding of Jewish values. But what does Jewish tradition teach us about handling polarizing public issues like the recent Senate hearings with Dr. Fauci?In this episode, Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy reflect on the intersection of political theater, the preservation of life (pikuach nefesh), and the dangers of celebrity culture and partisanship during the pandemic. They discuss their personal experiences—Rabbi Leora Londy from Israel and Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe from the U.S.—debate the cost and benefit of various pandemic policies, and explore how humility, dissent, and communal responsibility are deeply rooted Jewish values that can guide us through divisive moments.Key highlights include a candid discussion on the flaws of hero-villain narratives, how the pandemic shaped communal trust, and what ancient wisdom can offer today's combative public discourse.Timestamped Overview[00:00] Introduction and overview[00:20] Jewish values guiding pandemic debates: Pikuach nefesh and fallibility[01:00] The primacy of preserving life in Judaism[04:14] Political theater, scapegoating, and Israel’s collective values during COVID[06:46] Differences in Israeli society; Haredi-community response[08:47] Honest reckoning with the costs and benefits of lockdowns[11:49] The impact and dangers of hubris: Dr. Fauci’s diaries and celebrity culture[16:41] Compassion, fallibility, and humility in leadership[19:26] The press, dissent, and the Jewish imperative to avoid groupthink[29:26] Modeling respectful disagreement and the role of community[31:11] Outro and closing remarks
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Ep. 50: What Should be Our Response to the NYC Mayor’s Anti-Israel Rhetoric?
Standing up for critical thinking and nuance in tumultuous times, this episode examines how political rhetoric at the highest levels can impact Jewish communities—and why thoughtful, honest conversation matters more than ever. The conversation focused on recent controversial statements from the New York City mayoral office and unpacked the layered impact on Jewish identity, safety, and leadership. One concept discussed was the persistent challenge of addressing both external antisemitism and internal division, particularly as outrage and extreme views dominate public discourse. A key theme that emerged was the importance of cultivating resilience and nuanced understanding within the Jewish community, even when feeling politically homeless. The discussion explored strategies for engaging the next generation, the dangers of social media echo chambers, and what real accountability and allyship should look like from political leaders.Timestamped Overview[00:00:00] Welcome & Introductions[00:00:23] Framing the Issue: NYC Mayoral Rhetoric and Its Impact[00:01:57] Emotional Reactions and Perceived Betrayal[00:05:03] Was It Naïveté or Reasonable Hope?[00:08:02] Importance of Engagement and Youth Perspectives[00:10:17] Outrage, Politics, and the Power of Social Media[00:13:31] Historical Parallels and New Generational Challenges[00:15:15] Pessimism, Critical Thinking, and Majority Impact[00:18:12] The Test for American Society[00:19:47] Nuance, Populism, and the Danger of Certainty[00:22:06] Conversations with Israelis: Complexity on the Ground[00:24:31] The Role of Israeli Extremism in International Perceptions[00:27:27] Moral Complexity, Military Leaders, and Hope for Politics[00:28:50] Diaspora Jews, Israeli Rhetoric, and Political Consequences[00:29:58] Everyday Jewish Life, Visibility, and Safety in NYC[00:32:18] What Would Restore Trust?[00:33:20] Refocusing Political Leadership: Hopes and Expectations[00:34:37] Closing & Resources
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Ep. 49: Can Anger Be a Virtue?
Righteous anger can fuel justice, but when does it cross the line? In this thought-provoking episode, Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy dive into the role of anger in Jewish tradition, asking whether anger is a blemish on character or a vital ingredient for social change. Touching on biblical texts, personal experiences, and pivotal moments in history like the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire, their conversation explores the balance between rage and constructive indignation, the gendered experience of anger, and how communal and personal anger can be channeled for good. With candor and philosophical depth, this episode will leave you rethinking the place of anger in your life and faith.Timestamped Overview00:00 Welcome and introduction00:20 Shabbat Chazon, Isaiah, and God's anger02:02 Human emotion and biblical models of anger03:24 The risks and benefits of anger04:06 Is anger a sin or a necessary tool?05:38 Prophets, justice, and the uses of anger06:14 Personal example: parenting and anger07:22 Historical example: Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire08:20 Parental anger and boundaries09:08 Anger in moderation vs. total avoidance10:32 Maimonides, Aristotle, and the 'golden mean'11:09 Is righteous anger part of Jewish tradition?12:09 Gender, anger, and societal expectations13:29 Anger as empowering and problematic14:22 Suppressing vs. expressing anger15:17 Cultural perspectives: Israel vs. America16:38 Cultural differences in expressing anger17:06 Guilt, anger, and personal weakness17:38 Handling anger without outburst18:23 Justified anger and its necessity18:23 God’s anger and the 13 attributes19:34 Appeasing anger—God and people20:14 Balancing justice and mercy21:06 God, values, and anger as projection22:10 Righteous anger in Torah stories22:11 Modern society’s anger and activism23:53 Social movements and anger24:18 Manifestations of anger: constructive and destructive25:15 Societal fraying and destructive rage26:18 Distinguishing anger from rage26:46 Prophets and righteous anger27:20 Parenting, anger, and positive motivation27:38 High Holidays and setting intention around anger28:28 Talmudic story: anger at wrongdoing29:14 Hasidic teachings—anger as a mask30:22 Compassion towards those showing anger30:56 Wrap-up and reflections30:58 Outro and contact information
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Ep. 48: What is the Message of Tisha B’Av?
Rebuilding can only begin once we honor our losses—so what can the most sorrowful day on the Jewish calendar teach us about hope and resilience? In this powerful episode, Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy dive into the meaning, history, and contemporary relevance of Tisha B'Av. They explore the motifs of destruction and rebirth embedded in Jewish tradition, the deeply human need for collective mourning, and how Tisha B'Av acts as a transformative gateway to self-reflection and change. With personal stories, practical insights, and a look at shifting observance in the Reform movement, the rabbis offer rich inspiration for finding meaning—both in grief and in rebuilding.Timestamped Overview00:00 Welcome and Setting the Context00:23 The Nine Days and Tisha B'Av: What and Why01:38 Historical Significance & National Grief03:43 Personal Memories and Experiences06:12 Senseless Hatred vs. Senseless Love07:09 Tisha B'Av as a 12-Step Program for Renewal10:44 Communal Mourning and Human Nature11:17 A Powerful Shared Tisha B'Av Story14:18 How Do We Observe Tisha B'Av?15:44 The Structure and Meaning of Eicha (Lamentations)17:32 Order, Structure, and Surviving Chaos20:27 Destruction as a Catalyst for Change21:26 The Reform Movement’s Relationship with Tisha B'Av23:25 Metaphor, Literalism, and Personal Belief25:01 Processing Sadness and Grief Today27:36 Sadness, Shabbat Nachamu, and the Turn Toward Hope29:44 Consolation, Hope, and Personal Reflections32:17 Tisha B'Av’s Enduring Antidote for Modern Times33:12 Wishing Listeners a Meaningful Tisha B'Av and Closing
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Ep. 47: Is the Term Anti-Semitism Still Useful?
What happens when the words we use to describe hate actually cloud our understanding rather than clarify it?In this episode, Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy tackle the complicated language around "antisemitism," debating whether the term still serves us—or if it now obscures the nuanced realities of Jewish life and hatred today. Through layered discussion, personal stories, and historical insight, they dissect how language shapes our engagement, activism, and safety as Jews. If you've ever wrestled with what to call anti-Jewish hatred and why it matters, this episode arms you with new perspectives and vocabulary.Timestamped Overview[00:00] Intro, context, and episode framing[00:36] Review of "antisemitism"—where the term came from and its evolution[02:24] Is a new term like "anti-Jew hatred" needed?[03:19] The blind spots and rhetorical loopholes in today’s discourse[06:04] Experiencing antisemitism: personal anecdotes and reflections[10:19] The power dynamics of Jewish identity in America and Israel[12:34] Who gets to define the Jewish narrative and language?[13:45] Comparing modern Jew hatred to earlier forms[15:21] How antisemitism shapes Jewish identity for a new generation[16:19] Confusion, nuance, and the vocabulary gap for younger Jews[19:58] The tragic dilemma: moral labels and supporting Israel[22:39] Educational approaches and the gray zones of debate[24:57] The role of dissent, mass thinking, and internal critique[26:14] Differentiating the forms of hate from the right and left[28:39] Case studies: SodaStream, activism, and narrative battles[30:44] Words and their limits: is nuance a distraction?[32:04] Equipping Jewish young adults for tough conversations[34:02] Jews for Judaism and needing new scripts[35:01] Social exclusion, campus experiences, and new forms of hatred[36:06] Finding a shared language: next steps and community action[37:33] A light, humorous wrap-up on language change[38:52] Outro and resources
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Ep. 46: Should We Retire the Word Zionism?
Discover why the language we use shapes not just debate but our very sense of belonging—especially when it comes to one of Judaism’s most loaded words: Zionism. Should we retire the term altogether? Join Rabbi Leora Londy and Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe as they tackle whether ongoing arguments over “Zionism” help or hinder honest conversation about Israel, Jewish identity, and inclusion in the Jewish community. Along the way, they delve into generational divides, personal journeys, and the dangers of reducing complex identities to slogans. The episode challenges listeners to reflect on the words they use, the reasons behind their associations, and what truly unites or fractures the Jewish people today.Timestamped Overview[00:00] Introduction: The Power of Words & the Season of Devarim[00:44] Should We Retire “Zionism”?[02:47] Anecdote: Zio’s Deli and Language’s Shifting Meaning[03:35] History and Meaning of Zionism[05:05] Reactions to Retiring the Term[05:52] What if There Were No Replacement Term?[07:02] Lived Identity and Nuances within Zionism[09:36] Is Zionism Too Broad or Too Loaded?[11:44] Encounters with “Anti-Zionist” Jews[13:54] The Fracture and Opportunity in These Conversations[15:25] The Futility of Debating Israel’s Right to Exist[19:25] Personal Journey: Leaving, Longing for, and Defending Israel[23:22] Advocating for a Better Israel[25:42] Why Apologize for Supporting Israel?[28:50] Personal Stories of Protest and Tisha B’Av[30:47] The Motif of Destruction and Renewal[32:31] Anti-Zionism: PR or Deeper Ideology?[33:31] What Are People Really Opposing?[35:56] Words as Slogans vs. Substance[36:56] Challenging Listeners: How Do You Enter This Debate?[37:43] Closing: Volunteering in Israel and Hopes for Future Conversations
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Ep. 45: What Should We Make of the Negotiated MOU with Iran?
Amid the ever-shifting landscape of global politics, adaptability and historical memory remain vital. What happens when Israel can no longer rely on longstanding alliances—or when old assumptions about safety and security are challenged by new realities? In this episode, the conversation focused on the recent Iran memorandum of understanding, its implications for Israeli politics and security, and how American Jewish communities are processing these developments. Key themes include the unraveling of Netanyahu’s traditional claims to leadership, the unpredictability of Middle Eastern agreements, the power of grassroots action, and the emerging sense of vulnerability and responsibility among Jews worldwide. The discussion explored the fragility of political constructs and the importance of taking proactive steps—even when the geopolitical terrain feels overwhelming.Timestamped Overview[00:00] Introduction and Iran memorandum context[01:05] Shifting Israeli political alliances and Netanyahu’s strategy[02:48] Netanyahu’s traditional claims and their erosion[04:25] Influence of Iran conflict on upcoming Israeli elections[05:24] Personalities, alliances, and unity efforts in Israel[07:36] Fractured political landscape and ultra-Orthodox draft tensions[09:12] Exclusion of Israel in Iran negotiations and diaspora perspectives[10:30] Value of PR vs. military strength for Israel[12:40] Unreliable agreements in Middle Eastern politics[14:06] Sports contract analogy for international deals[15:14] “Pie in the sky” promises and managed chaos[16:42] Cultural differences and the nature of Middle Eastern agreements[18:32] Limits of diplomacy with Iran and intractable issues[20:10] Comparison with JCPOA and Israel’s security situation[21:34] Powerlessness and public anxiety around global events[22:27] Rising antisemitism and boundaries of safety[24:29] American Jewish experiences and lessons from history[25:30] Role of American Jews in the Israeli election[27:53] Travel, solidarity, and strengthening global Jewish connection[29:19] Alternatives to the US-Israel alliance and rethinking assumptions[30:51] Final reflections and hopes for thoughtful leadership[31:42] Outro and community information
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Ep. 44: What Do Religion and Team Sports Have in Common?
What if rooting for laundry is the closest most people will get to a spiritual experience? In this episode of "In Such a Time," Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy reveal powerful (and surprising) parallels between sports fandom and religious identity—from sacred rituals to communal belonging, group pride, and even prayer for teams at B’Nai Mitzvah. Explore how being a Knicks fan or cheering at the World Cup connects to deeper questions of meaning, purpose, isolation, and humility. Plus, the hosts tackle why modern worship can feel like a spectator sport, the complicated intersection of nationalism and sports, and the unexpected grace in sports-driven gratitude, all while sharing personal stories about finding their own teams—and why sometimes your kids turn you into a fan.Timestamped Overview00:00 New York City’s sports euphoria and national pride01:24 How sports teams unite people—and Little League reflections03:15 Sports as a pressure valve from heavy news and everyday stress04:43 Teamwork, the Knicks, and modeling community05:16 Prayer, spirituality, and sports in B'Nai Mitzvah ceremonies06:15 Parallels between sports institutions and religious ritual08:20 The quest for belonging: sports fandom vs. religious community09:34 Rooting for laundry: entity over the individual11:06 Inherited vs. willed fandom; forming team identities in the family14:13 Sports as ideology in Israel—and finding your “tribe”15:26 Parental perspective: cultivating a sports or Jewish home16:22 Descartes’ Wager, willing yourself into fandom, and team ethos18:00 Difference between passive fandom and participatory religion20:11 Worship as engagement vs. entertainment23:07 Examples of participatory spiritual models: High Holidays, B’Nai Mitzvah26:12 Religion in sport—God, gratitude, and humility in athletics28:49 Finding purpose: feeling privileged in your calling31:33 Biblical lessons: putting people in positions to succeed34:00 Tribalism, nationalism, and collective sports moments36:41 When sports and politics collide—wishing for escapism38:07 Choosing your World Cup team with Jewish history in mind40:40 Sports moments that build bridges and community42:16 Local synagogue teams: Matzoh Ballers and Shofar Shooters
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Ep. 43: Does Judaism Mandate Marriage?
What if the ancient Jewish blessing for newborns—to study Torah, perform good deeds, and one day get married—no longer fits our modern lives? This episode dives headfirst into the evolving role of marriage within Jewish tradition, asking whether meaningful lives require sacred relationships or if today’s realities demand more inclusive interpretations. The conversation focused on how liturgy, cultural expectations, and Torah values intertwine with individual choices, from celebrating couples and families to affirming those who embrace singlehood, diverse relationship structures, or child-free living. One concept discussed was how the language and boundaries of tradition adapt (or resist adaptation) in a rapidly changing world. Several points were raised, including whether marriage—a central Jewish value—should remain the ideal, how modern realities around procreation expand beyond traditional frameworks, and how communities can honor both heritage and innovation without leaving anyone out.Timestamped Overview:[00:00] Welcome and introduction; framing the big question around baby-naming and liturgical blessings[00:55] Traditions of blessing babies for future marriage—should this still be central?[02:11] Reevaluating assumptions: The pressure to solve “singlehood” in the Jewish community[05:37] Language of relationships in Hebrew and the cultural focus on couplehood[07:54] Scriptural and theological roots for prioritizing marriage[09:48] Jewish tradition, divorce, and the complexity of sacred relationships[11:16] Modern realities: procreation, family structures, and choices outside marriage[12:06] Navigating the boundaries of tradition and new relationship models[14:48] Addressing individuals who choose solitude or non-traditional paths[17:56] The challenge of offering advice rooted in Jewish tradition versus personal bias[19:52] Personal perspectives shaped by context and upbringing[21:27] Translating and updating liturgical language to reflect diverse relationships[22:46] Inclusivity, evolving models, and the risk of boundaryless tradition[23:49] Marriage, parenthood, and shifting social responsibilities[26:11] Reflections on family, loneliness, and reconfiguring community bonds[27:03] Defending the central place of marriage and family in Jewish life[29:20] Balancing tradition with inclusion and support for all kinds of lives[30:35] Jewish tradition’s historical and legal approach to polyamory[30:56] Considering child-free marriages and how blessings infer expectations[33:34] Concerns about new generational trends and fulfillment[34:24] Teens’ perspectives on marriage and raising Jewish families[35:31] Translating blessings to allow for meaningful but nontraditional relationships[36:36] Final thoughts: wrestling with tradition, modern values, and what it means to bless a life
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Ep. 42: Should We Ordain Antizionist Rabbis?
What if the very heart of Reform Judaism—its relationship to Israel—was up for debate in the ordaining of new rabbis? This episode of "In Such a Time" plunges into the charged question rocking Hebrew Union College and the wider Reform movement: Should future clergy be required to support the existence of the State of Israel?Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy reflect on their experience at the recent Recharging Reform Judaism conference, revealing the internal clashes between progressive ideals and core Jewish principles. From tensions over anti-Zionist rabbis in the pulpit to the generational divide in Jewish safety and memory, the conversation exposes both vulnerability and vitality within the Reform movement today. You'll hear candid perspectives on the responsibilities of seminaries, the boundaries of Jewish leadership, and why these debates matter for the future of Jewish communities everywhere.Episode Overview00:00 — Intro: Jewish Life, Leadership, and Meaning00:20 — The Conference Question: Zionism and Rabbinic Ordination01:46 — Personal Values at Odds: Love for Israel and Liberalism02:50 — Should All Viewpoints Be Welcomed in Seminary?04:20 — Seminary Graduates as Communal Leaders — Risks and Concerns06:21 — Reform Judaism Principles and the Litmus Test Debate09:23 — Troubling Stories from Students in Israel10:04 — Crossing Boundaries — When Disagreement Becomes Disrespect11:39 — Praising Authentic Leadership and Respectful Discourse13:31 — Tension Between Seminary as Yeshiva vs. Graduate School15:11 — Israeli and American Program Differences17:24 — Roots, Privilege, and the Meaning of Being Jewish19:13 — HUC’s Position and the Challenge of Hiring21:13 — Competition Among Seminaries and Community Trends22:59 — Clergy Influence on Congregational Direction24:37 — Chicken-and-Egg: Institutions vs. Rabbis Shaping the Future26:20 — Generational Shifts After October 7th27:05 — Analogy: Why HUC Is No Longer “Costco” for Reform Rabbis28:14 — Boundaries, Liberalism, and the Anxiety of Jewish Identity30:09 — Betrayal and Defining Reform Judaism32:25 — Early Encounters with Anti-Zionist Discourse33:22 — Lack of Humility and Seeking a Platform, Not Learning35:01 — Are Students Exposed to True Viewpoint Diversity?38:14 — Deep Fractures — Are We Even the Same People?40:00 — Why the Reform Movement’s Fate Might Not Matter to All41:44 — Jewish Safety, Privilege, and the Legacy of Israel41:56 — Hope for Enhanced Viewpoint Diversity at HUC43:11 — Closing and Where to Find More
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Ep. 41: Should We Stop Supporting Artists Who Attack Jews and Israel?
Could loving your favorite band put your safety—or your conscience—at risk? This episode of "In Such a Time" confronts a dilemma that many are now quietly struggling with: What should you do when beloved artists publicly express harshly critical or anti-Semitic views? The conversation focuses on the personal and communal challenges of reconciling artistic appreciation with ethical boundaries, especially when those boundaries hit close to home.A key theme that emerged was the pain of "breaking up" with once-cherished music and art due to the artist’s public stance and how that sense of loss is a form of grief. The discussion explored the complexity of separating art from the artist, delving into whether certain lines—like singling out Israel or perpetuating dangerous tropes—should be crossed, and if so, how to respond.Several points were raised, including real-life anecdotes about concerts, the influence of artists on public opinion, the pressures facing Jewish families and communities, and the difference between supporting artists with controversial pasts and those who currently foment hatred. The episode ultimately calls for more nuanced conversations and challenges listeners to think deeply about their own values and choices in this polarized time.Timestamped Overview[00:00:00] Welcoming listeners and introducing the episode’s core dilemma[00:01:10] Personal struggles with separating music from artist statements[00:03:19] Navigating Jewish identity in spaces where Israel is criticized[00:05:13] The emotional toll of losing beloved artists to divisive rhetoric[00:10:24] Separating art from artist—where do we draw the line?[00:13:20] The stakes of hate speech versus other types of bad behavior[00:19:06] Weighing collective versus individual harm[00:22:40] The call for real dialogue versus sloganeering[00:24:43] Do artists have a responsibility to avoid wedge issues?[00:28:03] Public figures singling out Israel compared to other global offenses[00:32:38] Practical advice—how do we handle music we love but now question?[00:40:07] The fracturing of bands and communities over political divides[00:41:00] Parting thoughts: keeping the conversation going
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Ep. 40: Can We Do a Jewish Holidays Draft?
What if you could only keep five Jewish holidays for the rest of your life? Which would you choose—and which would you let go? In this fun, live episode recorded on Erev Shavuot, Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy go head-to-head in a lively "draft pick" of annual Jewish holidays, revealing surprising priorities, personal stories, and the deeper values these days embody. From the foundational power of Passover, to the drama and debate over the best (and worst) festival foods, to the meaning behind both universally beloved and lesser-known holidays, this episode is full of insight, humor, and communal reflection. Plus: listeners get involved with live audience voting on the ultimate top 10 list—sparking debates about tradition, renewal, and the evolving Jewish calendar.Episode Overview:00:00 Welcome and episode introduction00:21 Setting up the live holiday draft and ground rules01:08 How the draft works: format confusion and competitive spirit04:08 First pick: Rabbi Leora Londy chooses Passover and explains its generational meaning06:03 Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe reacts and shares the cultural richness of Passover07:01 Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe drafts Rosh Hashanah, describing its sensory joys10:04 Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe picks Sukkot: impermanence, outdoor celebration, and family12:51 Rabbi Leora Londy drafts Shavuot and why revelation and learning matter15:25 Shavuot’s food debate and differences between Israel and Diaspora17:51 Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe drafts Hanukkah: joy, food, and resilience20:57 Rabbi Leora Londy picks Tisha B'Av: loss, destruction, and renewal23:00 Sparring over mourning days and fasting25:55 Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe drafts Purim: strength, assimilation, and trauma28:02 Discussion: Purim memories, struggles, and Jewish identity29:30 Rabbi Leora Londy drafts Yom Kippur: hope, atonement, and community33:01 Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe drafts Simchat Torah: finishing and restarting the Torah cycle35:06 Rabbi Leora Londy closes with Yom Ha'atzmaut: Zionism, gratitude, and complexity38:31 Final reflections and the meaning behind Israel’s celebrations39:36 Outro and how to connect with the hosts and congregation
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Ep. 39: What Ought to Be Our Response to This Week’s NY Times Op-Ed?
What if the stories shaping global perceptions of Israel—and the Jewish people—weren't as clear-cut as headlines suggest? This episode dives headfirst into the New York Times op-ed by Nicholas Kristof, a piece that's sent shockwaves throughout the Jewish American community by alleging systematic abuses by Israeli soldiers. But hosts Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy refuse to settle for cynicism or despair—instead, they grapple with uncomfortable truths, media responsibility, and the moral backbone of Israel itself.From gut-wrenching reports of violence and human rights abuses on all sides, to the dangers of moral absolutism and anti-Semitism, this episode doesn't shy away from controversy. Yet, at its heart, it calls for integrity, empathy, and real dialogue—reminding us that facing hard questions is the path to a better, more just community and world. Listen in for an urgent conversation about truth, accountability, and the hope for a more humane future.Timestamped Overview[00:00] Episode introduction and Kristof’s controversial article[00:51] Rabbi Leora Londy reacts: emotional turmoil and moral disappointment[02:55] Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe on community divisions and credibility of media[05:55] The importance—and challenge—of maintaining a moral compass amid conflict[08:55] Grappling with Israeli societal tensions post-October 7th[10:45] Debating what “systematic” really means and double standards in global scrutiny[14:20] Checks, balances, and the dangers of unchecked power in Israel[18:07] Democracy, protest, and the realities of Israeli society[20:11] Violence, changing cultural norms, and who serves in the IDF[22:53] Critiquing Kristof: sources, timing, and journalistic responsibility[26:33] The impact of allegations, storytelling, and bearing witness[31:34] Moral inversion, media narratives, and the perils of antisemitism[40:17] The missed opportunity for Israeli self-reflection and accountability[42:42] Ending with hope: forging dialogue and seeing the humanity in the other[43:38] Outro and how to connect with the community
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Ep. 38: What Can Rabbis Learn from the Life of Hulk Hogan?
What if being a rabbi is a little like being a professional wrestler—so caught up in your public Persona that you risk losing sight of your authentic self? Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy wrestle (sometimes literally!) with the surprising parallels between the performative world of Hulk Hogan and the lives of clergy. From Netflix’s revealing Hulk Hogan series to stories from the bema, they explore how leaders juggle authenticity, authority, and public expectation while resisting the pitfalls of Persona-overload. Highlights include honest talk about boundaries, family life, Jewish texts on roles and authenticity, and how to stay grounded when the world puts you on a pedestal.Curious whether your rabbi is more Moses or more Hulk Hogan? Don’t miss this behind-the-scenes look at leadership, vulnerability, and what it really takes to hold sacred space for others—and yourself.Timstamped Overview[00:00] Welcome & the Netflix Hulk Hogan connection[02:17] Persona vs. self: clergy, wrestlers, and losing yourself[06:32] Navigating rabbinic boundaries and authenticity[11:15] Jewish texts: Esther, Hadassah, and priestly role-playing[14:38] What happens when the rabbi steps down? Identity & authority[18:00] Imposter syndrome and the cost of being “on”[29:36] Family life, kids, and living in the synagogue spotlight[37:26] The quest for authenticity in a performative world[41:08] Stay grounded: funny stories, humility, and final reflections[42:58] Outro & where to connect
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Ep. 37: What Happened to Shavuot?
Did you know there’s a major Jewish holiday that many people barely recognize—or even know exists? In this upbeat and eye-opening episode, Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy uncover the mystery behind Shavuot’s “disappearing act” in much of the diaspora, despite its deep spiritual, historical, and culinary significance. The episode journeys between vibrant Shavuot celebrations in Israel—complete with all-night learning, white clothes, and cheese platters—to the challenges faced in North American communities where Shavuot is often overlooked or misunderstood.Highlights include surprising cultural differences, creative ways to revive Shavuot (think: wine and cheese festivals, community TED talks, and baby blessings), and thoughtful reflections on reimagining tradition for today’s Jewish families. Whether you’re searching for meaningful rituals, ways to connect, or just want to savor some Jewish wisdom, this “triage team” episode is packed with inspiration, humor, and practical ideas to put Shavuot back on your calendar.Timestamped Overview00:00 Welcome & setup: the mystery of Shavuot’s decline01:20 What is Shavuot: origins, meaning, and traditions03:33 Israel’s Shavuot renaissance: dairy, study, and fashion06:43 Why is Shavuot overlooked in the diaspora?09:07 The missing ritual “hook” of Shavuot11:23 Ritual contrasts: Israeli and diaspora experiences13:04 The “crisis” of forgotten holidays and possible solutions15:13 Reform Judaism’s attempts: confirmation & Tikkun Leil17:09 Creative communal Shavuot celebrations19:05 Personal and communal impact of shifting Jewish calendars22:19 Practical suggestions: wine & cheese, cultural events25:01 Interfaith lessons and the Book of Ruth28:10 Bikurim and celebrating new life29:39 Communicating and reclaiming Shavuot32:57 Integrating tradition, text, and contemporary relevance35:31 Theological challenges of Shavuot’s Torah reading39:01 The cycle of brokenness and renewal40:26 Closing suggestions for celebrating Shavuot now42:21 Outro and ways to connect
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Ep. 36: Ought Synagogues Prioritize Their Principles or Being Accommodating?
What if your synagogue doesn’t actually reflect your rabbi’s own Jewish practice? In this refreshingly honest episode, Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy open the door on a rarely-discussed truth: the way clergy personally observe and the standards they set for their congregations don’t always align. With bold candor, they explore the inner “push and pull” of balancing personal standards, communal expectations, tradition, and innovation.Listen in as they debate hot-button questions like: Should congregations water down traditions to accommodate everyone, or raise the bar for engagement? Is it ever appropriate to host a Passover Seder before the holiday itself just to help congregants connect—or is that breaking too far from sacred time? When do phones in the sanctuary break spiritual moments, and when are they tools of Jewish memory? The rabbis reveal their own wrestling, share stories from their families and community, and invite listeners to weigh in on the ever-evolving identity of modern American Judaism.Episode Highlights:00:00 Intro and today’s big question: Standards vs. meeting people where they are01:26 Personal rabbinic standards vs. community norms03:35 The clergy “dance”: Observance at home vs. for the congregation04:12 Duty and privilege of serving the greater Jewish community05:18 Should synagogues set higher standards than members?06:00 Kashrut case study: Raising (or enforcing) standards in the community07:01 Passover dilemma: Model Seder before the holiday?10:08 Sacred time, the calendar, and “checking the box” on holidays13:07 Clashing values: Tradition, community, and religious timing19:08 Phones, photos & spiritual boundaries: Shabbat services as school assembly?22:35 Chuck E. Cheese Judaism? When worship feels more like background music27:11 Balancing spiritual authority with joyful community32:18 Are cultural Jewish events enough—or do we need deeper connection?34:48 The special sauce: Integrating joy, community, and tradition35:40 Outro and call for listener feedback
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Ep. 35: What Can We Learn From Israel’s Declaration of Independence?
What if the birth of modern Israel wasn’t just a miracle of survival—but the world’s greatest social experiment, blending ancient prophecy, multiculturalism, and the struggles of democracy? This episode of In Such a Time dives into the rarely-discussed tensions and triumphs at the heart of Israel’s identity, anchored by its Declaration of Independence.Join Rabbi Leora Londy and Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe as they mark Yom Hashoah, Yom Hazikaron, and Yom Haatzmaut with a candid, heartfelt conversation about the values, challenges, and living realities behind Israel’s founding document. From classroom anecdotes and playground cannons to moments of unity in the Knesset and shared struggles across religious divides, the rabbis explore whether today’s Israel is living up to the hopes of its founders—or forging something even more unexpected. Revealing and hopeful, this episode is a must-listen for anyone who wants to understand the soul-searching at the center of Israeli and Jewish life today.Timestamped Overview:00:00 Welcome and setting the scene: Yom Hashoah, Yom Hazikaron, Yom Haatzmaut01:05 Rabbi Leora Londy on the emotional power of Israel’s "High Holidays"03:24 Does modern Israel match its founding vision?03:56 Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe on the Declaration of Independence as living constitution06:45 Reflections on accountability, justice, and prophetic ideals07:16 The Declaration’s call for equality and multiculturalism10:04 Surprising examples of Arab and Jewish coexistence in education and government13:06 Dysfunction and diversity in the Knesset13:42 The bravery of Israel’s founders: history and inspiration16:42 Memories of resilience, sacrifice, and building a nation20:02 Comparing Israel’s revival with other native sovereignty movements22:59 Wrestling with secular, religious, and demographic changes25:36 Segregation and evolving educational divides28:00 The challenges of internal division and hope for unity30:52 Glass half full: Everyday multiculturalism and living the tapestry35:58 Stories of real-life coexistence in schools, hospitals, and delivery rooms42:52 The prayer and hope for Israel’s future
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Ep. 34: When Does Religion Become Extremism?
What if religious passion could literally get you killed? This week, the “In Such a Time” podcast dives into the chilling story of Nadav and Avihu from Parashat Shmini, revealing how the boundaries between deep devotion and dangerous zealotry can blur—sometimes with devastating consequences. Rabbis Jaffe and Londy share personal reflections on religious extremism, examine how faith communities define (and redefine) zealotry, and explore the provocative question: Are liberal Jewish practices themselves a form of extremism?Don't miss their thoughtful discussion on the power and peril of authentic religious expression, from the Kotel controversies in Israel to the radical roots of Judaism, and the unexpected lessons Chabad offers to those seeking balance. Expect insights on the golden mean, messianic fervor, and why "staying in your lane" isn't always as simple as it sounds.Timestamped Overview00:00 Introduction to Parashat Shmini and the story of Nadav and Avihu01:47 Tragic consequences of religious passion and boundaries04:24 When does religious observance become dangerous?06:31 The dangers of certainty and zealotry in belief09:06 Fundamentalism as structure and its broader effects12:32 Personal stories of being labeled an extremist in Israel15:34 Reform Judaism and questions of extremism17:12 Extreme moves by the Reform movement19:00 Textual return: Korbanot, closeness, and boundaries21:10 Extremism as intimacy and the pursuit of truth22:58 Comparing Nadav and Avihu to Elijah and absolute truth28:03 Zealotry in Jewish and other religious texts30:17 Cults, sects, and the roots of organized religion33:59 Messianic fervor, hope, and religious extremism37:17 Chabad as a model for authenticity without judgment40:24 Authenticity, hospitality, and nuance41:26 Dialectic between authenticity and inclusivity42:02 The golden mean and its limits43:20 Wrap-up and invitation to continue the conversation
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Ep. 33: "Why is Israel Now Passing Such Extreme Laws?"
What if the real threat to Israel's future isn’t from its enemies—but from within? This week on "In Such a Time," Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Landi confront the uncomfortable truth about internal divisions and radicalization shaping Israeli society—at the very moment when unity is needed most. Against the backdrop of Passover and the pressing headlines from Israel—including the controversial new death penalty law for Palestinian terrorists and the rising influence of the religious right—they ask what it will take for Israel to safeguard its democratic values and Jewish soul.Key highlights include:Candid reflections on Passover spent away from home and how core messages of freedom and family resonate in turbulent times.Honest, often emotional discussion of recent Israeli legislation, its implications for democracy, human rights, and the shifting role of religion in the state.Stories from Jewish tradition—like the destructive power of internal hatred—and how they parallel today’s events.Real talk on the next Israeli elections, the policies shaping the country, and what the future may actually hold for Israelis and Jews everywhere.Tune in for a powerful, sometimes uncomfortable, but ultimately hopeful conversation about the crossroads Israel and world Jewry now face.Timestamped Overview00:00 Passover check-in, rabbinic reflections, and Seder experiences00:35 News from Israel: Western Wall, death penalty law, and government divisions02:54 Historical parallels: Jewish fracture and lessons from the Temple’s destruction04:07 Israel as a democratic vs. theocratic state and new legislative challenges07:36 Political context: Budget, upcoming elections, and political grandstanding10:57 The logic and controversy of the new death penalty law12:11 Jewish perspectives on capital punishment and Torah values14:15 Deterring terrorism versus upholding Jewish ethics18:57 Equal justice under law and uneven applications—reflections from the Reform movement26:13 The dynamics within Israel’s coalition and the use of legislation for political gain31:42 The struggle to balance Israel’s democratic and Jewish identities33:40 Growing religious influence in state life: civil marriage, rabbinic courts, and women’s rights37:26 American Jewish misunderstandings of Israeli politics and Netanyahu’s legacy41:12 Campaigns for change: Israeli election dynamics and the yearning for normalcy43:37 The eternal Jewish struggle for unity, freedom, and “internal rebuilding”46:37 Closing blessings for redemption and hope for Israel and world Jewry
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Ep. 32: Why Do We Love Passover?
What if the "right" way to host a Passover Seder is to throw out the rulebook—and even make your own rules? This episode, Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Londy share why the most meaningful Seders are often the least traditional, revealing that authenticity and engagement matter far more than technical perfection. From supermarket nightmares and marshmallow rewards for questions, to deep dives on memory, identity, and the beauty of spiritual spring cleaning, this episode is an invitation to reclaim Passover as an experiment in radical Jewish learning, family, and freedom.Key highlights include:Why Passover makes Judaism a home-based tradition, not just a synagogue affairThe power of making space for every kind of child—and adult—at the Seder tableHonest anecdotes about Seder flops, spiritual cleansing, and navigating community needsBreaking down myths about Passover food and rituals (yes, you might be free to eat rice!)How finding meaning—not just following rules—keeps Judaism vibrant for future generationsTimestamped Overview:[00:00] Passover memories, Seder traditions, and home preparations[08:01] Why Passover is rooted in the home—not the synagogue[12:13] Storytelling, memory, and the pedagogical genius of the Seder[17:08] Adapting the Seder for your guests: from kid-friendly props to deep interfaith dialogue[19:33] Making Seders authentic, meaningful, and judgment-free[23:12] The metaphor of Egypt, freedom, and the courage to leave what’s comfortable[27:05] Personal Seder stories—from makeshift gatherings to lavish (and awkward) affairs[29:33] Embracing imperfection: four children, creative Seders, and leading with curiosity[34:10] Jewish continuity, pandemic Seders, and singing together under lockdown[36:07] Passover food traditions, kitniyot debates, and spiritual spring cleaning[42:01] Blessings for a sweet, free, and meaningful Pesach
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Ep. 31: Why Do We Love the Book of Leviticus?
What if the most misunderstood—and seemingly bizarre—book of the Torah actually holds the key to living a meaningful, connected, and sacred life today? In this episode of In Such a Time, Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy journey through the often-overlooked Book of Leviticus, exploring everything from ancient rituals of purity, sacrifices, and illness to how those concepts inspire the way we build relationships, create holiness in our daily lives, and even structure our Friday night Shabbat tables.You’ll hear stories both harrowing and humorous, like how Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe gave a dvar Torah on purity with actual blood dripping down his face, and discover why the Torah’s teachings on illness and community were actually radical and compassionate for their time. The conversation turns thoughtful and provocative as the rabbis wrestle with changing societal boundaries, the meaning behind ancient laws, and how to bring the awe and intentionality of temple rituals into modern Jewish living.Don’t miss this deep dive that might just change how you see a part of our tradition most people skip over!Episode Overview:00:00 Welcome back; setting up the Book of Leviticus and its themes01:26 What is Vayikra? Early memories and stories from Tazria-Metzora02:06 The challenge of impurity and awkward Torah portions04:43 Bar/bat mitzvah struggles with Leviticus and finding relevance06:59 What Leviticus is really about: sacrifices, purity, and closeness09:57 Animal sacrifice as spiritual connection and replacement with prayer12:23 Ritual purity, the separation of life and death, and gender dynamics15:07 Illness, stigma, and how Leviticus advances ancient compassion19:02 Kohanim, communal responsibility, and the model of accountable leadership21:00 Sacrifice as community-building—like a biblical barbecue24:01 The visceral impact of ancient sacrifice versus modern prayer26:07 Shabbat dinner and structuring modern spiritual moments from Leviticus31:47 Boundaries in relationships and evolving perspectives on holiness33:37 Wrestling with Leviticus’ values in a contemporary context36:27 Leviticus as experiential education and Sinai re-enactment39:17 The chiastic structure—holiness at the Torah’s center41:02 Leviticus as constitution: striving for sacredness and being “all in”42:05 Inviting deeper study and wrapping up with resources and reflections
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Ep. 30: What’s It Like Being a Reform Rabbi in Israel?
What if traveling to the U.S. from Israel meant sneaking across borders, hiding your Jewish identity, and relying on bus rides, taxis, and flights through countries that aren't always friendly to Jews? In this episode, Rabbi Benny Minich shares his extraordinary journey—literally and figuratively—from Crimea to Israel to the United States, peeling back the curtain on what it means to be Jewish, a rabbi, and a Reform movement leader today.Hosted by Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe, this episode dives into Benny’s personal story: escaping war zones, leading a reform community under fire (sometimes literally), and finding creative ways to keep his congregation connected when school is closed, flights are canceled, and air raid sirens send everyone to the bomb shelter. Benny unpacks the complexities of Israeli religious life, the unique challenges of building non-Orthodox community in Israel, and how his experiences in American synagogues changed his own vision of Jewish life. Against a backdrop of current headlines and conflict, this is a hopeful, inspiring conversation about resilience, innovation, and the global Jewish family.Timestamped Overview:00:00 Introduction and Benny’s dramatic journey to America04:00 Benny’s upbringing in Crimea and path to Israeli Reform rabbinate08:00 Russian-speaking Jews in Israel and Reform community growth12:00 Family realities: life during wartime, bomb shelters, closed schools19:00 Humor, community, and coping strategies in crisis23:00 The state of the Reform movement in Israel & political challenges31:00 Government, synagogue funding, and legal battles for recognition36:00 Lessons from American synagogues & reciprocal learning41:00 Pluralism, identity, and raising Jewish kids across borders45:00 What’s next: adventures in America, building bridges, and hope
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Ep. 29: What Are The Perils and Opportunities of War with Iran
What if the greatest threat to peace isn’t war—but silence?In this episode of "In Such a Time," Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Londy record on Purim, glitter and all, confronting the deep anxieties and hopes stirred by the unfolding conflict with Iran, Israel’s precarious situation, and the emotional toll it takes on Jews worldwide.With rare honesty, the rabbis debate the difference between true peace and mere quiet, reveal why Israelis resonate with displays of power, and wrestle with the limits of diplomacy in a turbulent Middle East. They share personal reflections—both have family and roots in Israel—and touch on the very real risks for Jews everywhere when headlines flare. Along the way, themes of resilience, boundary-setting, and hope for a freer, safer Iran emerge, interwoven with timely Purim insights about power and survival.Plus, the episode doesn’t shy away from the internal struggles within Israel itself, drawing sharp parallels between religious extremism in Iran and restrictive trends at the Western Wall, leaving listeners with food for thought about Jewish identity, freedom, and what it really means to “love your country.”Episode Overview:[00:00] Welcome & Purim vibes[00:20] Opening up about the emotional toll of new conflict[01:12] The exhaustion and uncertainty of ongoing war[02:43] Navigating Jewish, Israeli, and Western perspectives on power[06:15] The realities of strength and maintaining boundaries in the Middle East[08:07] Inspiration from Iranian protestors & Purim’s message[09:00] The complicated nature of leadership and outcomes[10:40] Reflecting on diplomacy, consequences, and American foreign policy[13:07] The challenge of balancing idealism and reality[14:35] When optimism meets harsh realities—Jewish survival and trust[17:19] Facing critiques of Israel and the morality of war[18:07] The dehumanizing effects of modern warfare[20:28] Military service: cultural gaps between Israel and the West[22:18] Rethinking sacrifice, heroism, and generational shifts in Israel[25:18] Stories of young Israelis and changing models of military service[26:54] Hopes for a peaceful resolution and Iranian freedom[29:03] What’s at stake for Jews worldwide and the region[33:14] The Western Wall, religious extremism, and Jewish identity[35:41] Wrapping up with hope, humor, and a Purim sendoff
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Ep. 28: What Can We Learn From the Book of Esther?
What if the villain of Purim, Haman, isn’t as evil as you thought—and Esther, the celebrated heroine, isn’t quite so perfect? Dive into a conversation that will challenge everything you think you know about the Book of Esther.In this episode of "In Such a Time," Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Londy bring fresh eyes to the Purim story, exploring the complex motivations and personalities of its most famous figures. Together, they peel back layers of traditional interpretation, examine feminist perspectives on Vashti and Esther, and draw provocative modern parallels—from the MeToo movement to the ethical dilemmas of power and vulnerability in today’s society.Key highlights include:Reframing Vashti as a proto-MeToo figure standing up to harassmentThe gray morality of Esther, Haman, and Mordechai—are they really hero and villain?Why the commandment to blot out Amalek may be more about confronting our own inner darkness than an ancient enemyThe enduring struggle between Jewish identity in the diaspora and the land of Israel, and what Esther means for Jews todayThoughtful debate on how Purim’s story relates to modern day extremism, leadership, and personal transformationIf you’ve ever been curious about the deeper messages of Megillat Esther or the relevance of Purim in today’s world, this warm, lively episode will leave you with new insights and big questions.Episode Overview:00:00Introduction and why Esther’s story is more relevant (and tricky) than ever00:57Vashti, Esther, and feminist readings of Megillat Esther03:33Exploring gray areas: Are the good guys really that good?05:58The origins of the story—is Esther fiction or fact?07:43Amalek, morality, and revenge—ancient enemies and internal struggles12:09How the Book of Esther is being interpreted in today’s world17:10Rethinking Haman’s motivations—enemy or opportunist?26:45Esther in the diaspora vs. Israel—a tale still playing out today31:05Is Esther really a heroine? Character complexity and personal growth39:17Final takeaways: embracing complexity and wishing a meaningful PurimListen to rethink, reflect, and rediscover the Purim story you thought you knew!
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Ep. 27: What's Your Favorite Part of Purim?
What if we told you that one of Judaism's most joyous holidays is also its most misunderstood—and, for some, even the least favorite? Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy dive headfirst into the revelry, complexity, and deep meaning behind Purim. From festive street parties in Israel to the hidden existential lessons of the Book of Esther, this conversation explores why Purim is so much more than just costumes and cookies.You'll hear honest confessions about Purim preferences, a spirited debate about diaspora vs. Zionism, and powerful insights into how this holiday can empower and challenge us—no matter where we live. They tackle everything from the pressures of mishloach manot to the mystical importance of masks and the unexpected spiritual connections between Purim and Yom Kippur. Whether you love or dread Purim, this episode will change the way you see it.Timestamped Overview:00:00: Welcome & holiday setup00:25: The Purim debate—love vs. dislike01:16: Behind-the-scenes of Israeli Purim celebrations04:03: Purim parties, costumes, and foodie traditions05:47: Revelry and the psychological/spiritual timing of Purim07:55: The dual nature of Purim in Jerusalem09:05: Zionist and diaspora narratives in Purim11:04: Esther, hiddenness, and spiritual seeking14:41: Choosing empowerment in diaspora Jewish life15:34: The enigmatic "drink until you don't know" tradition16:38: Mysticism: costumes, masks, and revealing truth18:34: Discovering Jewish identity in and out of Israel20:04: Hiddenness, revelation, and preparation for freedom20:47: Code-switching, names, and forging identity22:35: Purim's relevance for Westchester and modern communities23:20: A critique of Purim as a "kids’ holiday"25:00: Celebrations, traditions, and the fish phenomenon26:09: Adult engagement and meaningful ritual29:06: The wisdom of the 5 Megillot and Purim’s message for adults31:47: The cycle of joy and sadness in Jewish life33:19: Randomness, lots, and embracing depth behind the celebration34:33: The Fast of Esther and connections to Yom Kippur36:26: Looking ahead: a deeper dive into the Book of EstherReady to discover the real Purim? Press play.
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Ep. 26: Was the Superbowl Antisemitism Ad Misguided?
What if everything you’ve been told about fighting antisemitism isn’t just ineffective—but could actually fuel the problem? Rabbis Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy dive headfirst into the controversy sparked by a $15 million Super Bowl ad, dissecting whether public campaigns against antisemitism truly help—or just reinforce Jewish vulnerability.They unpack the critiques swirling around the ad’s messaging, and explore Bret Stephens’ provocative call for Jews to “stop fighting hatred” and instead invest in Jewish life and identity. Is Jewish resilience found in building bridges and institutions or simply by “leaning in” to authentic Jewish practice? The episode tackles the tension between withdrawal from public advocacy versus the risks of becoming insular, and asks whether Jewish identity should hinge on opposition to antisemitism or on positive, lived experiences.Listen as Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy share personal stories about raising children safely in America, discuss the ebb and flow of Jewish history—from Mount Sinai Hospital to Brandeis University—and debate the complexities of intermarriage and inclusion in today’s Jewish community. As they reflect on powerful moments with their teens, the hosts leave us with a message of hope: Maybe the most sacred work is neither fighting nor fleeing, but deepening relationships and living Jewish authenticity.Episode Overview by Timestamp:00:00: Welcome and introduction to the week's conversation00:19: Setting the stage: Super Bowl antisemitism ad and Bret Stephens’ speech01:01: Hosts’ reactions to the ad, and issues around “victimhood”04:34: Comfort, discomfort, and playing into antisemitism05:51: Martin Buber, self-understanding, and the futility of fighting hatred06:48: Is money spent fighting antisemitism wasted?08:47: The ebb and flow of Jewish history and communal strategies11:10: Teens’ response: less reactionary, more rooted Jewish identity13:13: College safety, guidance counselors, and Jewish identity after Oct 715:05: What are the actionable steps? Learning and investing in Judaism18:42: The risks of leaving the public arena19:46: What does it mean to be Jewish—identity vs. opposition20:39: Sustaining Jewish identity: holding onto values and knowledge22:28: The dilemma of inclusivity, standards, and intermarriage24:25: Real-life examples—the most Jewish kids sometimes come from intermarriage27:12: Personal stories: Is it worth explaining yourself to others?29:42: Is one conversation at a time the way the world works?33:27: Recap of the second, AI-generated rebuttal ad35:39: Diasporic Jew vs. Israeli Jew—narrative fatigue and what comes next37:38: The power of authentic relationships (Pardon The Interruption, community, allies)41:48: Final reflections & a hopeful call for deeper Jewish identity and connectionSubscribe, listen, and ask yourself: Should we redefine what it means to be Jewish—starting now?
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Ep. 25: How Does Music Connect You to Prayer?
What if the most transformative moments in Jewish prayer aren’t found in the words—but in the music you didn’t even know was shaping your spirit?In this revelatory episode of “In Such a Time,” Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Londy pull back the curtain on their very different—but unexpectedly harmonious—musical journeys into the rabbinate. Whether you think you’re “not a music person,” grew up bored by synagogue choirs, or can’t imagine prayer without melody, this conversation exposes how the sounds and silence of Jewish life have quietly been shaping us all along.You’ll hear Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe reveal his musical roots in Hawaiian slack key guitar and rock bands, and why his childhood counted synagogue music as little more than “filler”—before a single encounter in San Francisco flipped everything he believed. Rabbi Leora Londy shares the hidden power of growing up with a cantor-mother, geeking out on the “sounds of the season,” and the shock of standing in an unfamiliar synagogue in Florence where her musical “Jewish GPS” stopped working.Highlights from this episode include:The hilarious and humbling stories (“I only learned bassoon for the grade!”) behind each rabbi’s path to spiritual songleadingUnpacking why Jewish prayer can feel stale or electrifying—and why feeling lost in the music might actually be a sacred momentThe tug-of-war between tradition and innovation: Should services be a familiar playlist or a boundary-pushing “concert”—and what happens when congregants push back?Powerful vignettes from transformative musical moments: women’s nigun circles, rain-soaked prayer gatherings, and kids who learn Shabbat tunes before they know what they mean.An invitation to listeners to reflect: What music moves you? And how alive could Jewish community feel if you let yourself sing (or dance!) along?Whether you’re a foot-tambourine-wielding Shabbat rocker or a reluctant participant on the back row, this episode will make you rethink the soundtrack of your Jewish soul.Episode Overview with Timestamps:00:00: Welcome, introduction & theme—why talk about music and prayer?00:32: Rabbi Leora Londy shares her musical upbringing & the deep role of Jewish liturgy at home05:48: Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe confesses his lack of early musical connection to synagogue—and why that matters07:52: A dive into Hawaiian and “slack key” guitar: how secular music influences Jewish life11:35: Turning from rock music to Jewish songleading—unexpected spiritual connections14:15: The aliveness of jazz, hip hop, and authentic, unscripted prayer17:08: How synagogue environment and music shape mood—subtle signals of community19:43: The balance between curation, creativity, and meeting congregants’ expectations22:19: The “sounds and smells of the season”—how music marks sacred time in Jewish life24:02: The shock and beauty of experiencing unfamiliar Jewish musical traditions25:21: Israel’s unique blend of pop and sacred song—how secular music echoes the sacred26:17: Discovering the power of communal singing in Jerusalem, summer camp, and bomb shelters30:29: Deep dives into women’s song circles and reclaiming forbidden melodies34:37: Making prayer less “performance,” more community: tools for bringing everyone into the experience36:36: Open questions to listeners: What are you open (or not open) to trying in prayer?37:13: Real-world recommendations for musical, inspiring services in Westchester, NYC and beyond39:01: The awkwardness (and necessity) of authenticity—what Jewish worship can learn from “Sister Act”-style churches42:07: Why nigunim (wordless melodies) matter, and stories that will move you to tears46:36: A rabbinic “band”—what happens when the clergy have as much fun as the kids48:34: Wrapping up with a beloved nigun—and an invitation to let melody shake your soulReady to rediscover how music stirs meaning, belonging, and surprise in Jewish life? Hit play.
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Ep. 24: What Does Judaism Have To Say About Protesting?
What happens when the sacred act of protest collides with violence—and what does Judaism truly say about standing up, dissent, and crossing the line? This week’s episode of “In Such A Time” dives explosively into the turbulent debates around recent ICE protests in Minnesota, exploring not just policy and politics but the very essence of Jewish ethical responsibility in moments of national crisis.Rabbi Leora Londy and Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe take listeners on a passionate journey through the layered complexities of protest: When does protest become hooliganism? Is it ever justified to block law enforcement if you believe the law itself is unjust? As scenes of violence and heartbreak unfold on American streets, the rabbis wrestle openly with agreement, disagreement, and the dilemma of witnessing human suffering versus respecting the law. They challenge listeners to move beyond empty platitudes, question the purpose and consequences of collective action, and to reflect deeply on the micro- and macro-level effects protest has on society.Key highlights include:Personal and Jewish historical reflections on the necessity—and limits—of protest, including the example of Abraham’s challenge to God.The emotional and ethical impact of ICE enforcement and the way immigration sweeps have affected families and community.The danger of protest culture drifting into the performative or the cult-like, and the need for informed, purposeful activism.A raw debate about human rights, law enforcement, and the responsibilities of governments and citizens.Parallels between American protests and those in Israel, especially around policy, collective behavior, and heartbreaking losses from violence.A poignant closing as both rabbis grapple with their anxieties for democracy and offer prayers for peace, human dignity, and thoughtful civic engagement.Timestamped Episode Overview:00:00: Welcome and introduction to the topic of protest and ICE.01:21: Initial reflections on the health of protest in democracy and Jewish perspectives.03:27: Differentiating types of protest: nonviolent, hooliganism, blocking law enforcement.07:53: Wrestling with moral responsibilities when faced with injustice.12:03: The human side of immigration, due process, and compassion.18:25: Emotional distress, policy vs. humanity, how enforcement impacts families.23:29: Lively debate over political platitudes versus concrete policy solutions.31:37: Parallels with Israeli protests and tragic consequences of collective action.40:49: The psychology of protest movements, cult-like behaviors, and collective action.44:21: Personal responsibility, informed activism, and impacts of protest in society.49:56: Inspiring moments of global protest, hope, and calls for humane policy and peace.This episode is a must-listen for anyone grappling with the meaning of protest, the future of democracy, and the demands of conscience—revealing just how fraught and vital these conversations are in such a time.
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Ep. 23: Should We Keep Kosher?
What do kosher hot dogs, mummified chickens, and a mall food court have in common? In this surprisingly candid and humorous episode of "In Such a Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership and Meaning," hosts Rabbi Leora Londy and Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe dig deep into the intricacies—and idiosyncrasies—of kashrut, the Jewish dietary laws.From Kalua pig at Hawaiian bat mitzvahs to high-priced Passover pizzas at the American Dream Mall, they explore how keeping kosher shapes identity, creates community, and offers spiritual meaning, even amidst the chaos of modern life. Along the way, you'll hear about their personal journeys: why Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe draws the moral line at mammals, how Rabbi Leora Londy navigates diner omelets and chicken nuggets for her kids, and why the "cold dairy" salad might be the most Jewish lunch order of all.Their thoughtful conversation reveals why the rules of kashrut go far beyond food—they’re about humility, boundary, mindfulness, and authentic connection, whether you're buying groceries in Spring Valley, arguing for kosher kitchen standards at synagogue, or pondering why a Tel Aviv restaurant offers shrimp… on matzah.Key highlights include:The origins and evolving purpose of kashrut, from biblical times to the modern Reform movementHow keeping kosher connects Jews to their community, tradition, and everyday spiritualityEthical conundrums, arbitrary boundaries, and the challenges of kosher dining in Israel vs the diasporaJoyful and sometimes absurd stories from kosher supermarkets, food courts, and childhood science experimentsRecommendations for local kosher eateries and why the kosher scene is changing (spoiler: less sushi!)How kashrut teaches patience, humility, and the value of not always getting what you wantEpisode Overview[00:00:00] Welcome and intro to Jewish life, leadership, and meaning[00:00:20] Exploring kashrut: definitions, personal journeys, and ethical lines[00:05:07] What the Torah says (and doesn’t say) about kosher laws[00:08:08] How kashrut fosters Jewish identity and community[00:10:43] Reform Judaism’s evolving stance on “kitchen Judaism”[00:14:02] Supermarket stories, communal moments, and kosher pride[00:15:41] Mall food court sociology and kosher eating in public spaces[00:20:02] The reality of keeping kosher in Israel versus the diaspora[00:26:03] Arbitrary rules, cold dairy jargon, and childhood dietary dilemmas[00:29:11] Boundaries, humility, and teaching kids about kosher values[00:32:07] Connecting to ancestral diets, biblical vegetarianism, and mummified chickens[00:37:57] Favorite kosher restaurants, markets, and new trends in kosher dining[00:43:17] Wrap-up: kosher salt trivia and closing thoughtsFor anyone curious about what it truly means to keep kosher—or looking for some great foodie tips!—this episode is both enlightening and entertaining.
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Ep. 22: How Does West Coast Judaism Differ From East Coast?
In this eye-opening episode of In Such a Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership and Meaning, Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe sits down with his longtime friend and colleague, Rabbi Ryan Bauer, Senior Rabbi of Temple Emanuel in San Francisco, to reveal the fascinating, sometimes hilarious, and truly surprising contrasts between Jewish community life on the East and West Coasts.Get ready for stories you won’t believe: from the wild logistics of booking B’Nai Mitzvahs years in advance (complete with Google Docs and “party wars”) to why brisket is king in New York while lox and bagels reign supreme in San Francisco—even at shivas. You’ll hear about the reality of serving a congregation that churns by 10-15% each year, the entrepreneurial spirit that makes San Francisco’s Jewish scene an incubator for innovation (and failure!), and the culture shock Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe faced moving to the New York suburbs—where parking and family networks rule the day.Key highlights include:The secret story behind Temple Emanuel’s $117 million renovation—why they didn’t add parking, and what they did instead.How demographic trends shape everything, from religious school logistics to what’s served at break-fast.Shocking differences in Jewish life: suburban “date wars” for B’Nai Mitzvahs, urban young adult surges, and the crisis of community in a city where no one stays in town forever.How East Coast Jews crave tradition and continuity, while West Coast Jews rewrite the book every week, often literally.The power and pitfalls of keeping your congregation innovative—and why sometimes, failure is the expectation.This episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about how place shapes Jewish identity, leadership, and ritual—or for anyone who has ever wondered why their synagogue serves so much babka or can’t find a parking spot on the High Holidays.Episode Overview:[00:00:00] Intro Announcer welcomes listeners and sets the stage.[00:00:20] Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe introduces Rabbi Ryan Bauer, recounting their shared history and careers.[00:01:07] Rabbi Ryan Bauer shares the background of Temple Emanuel and his Bay Area journey.[00:03:00] Both discuss their formative years in Jewish leadership and the Bay Area context.[00:05:47] Dissecting the challenge of leading megasynagogues versus quick cultural resets.[00:06:46] The Temple Emanuel renovation: $117M, Third Temple inspiration, and the deliberate absence of parking.[00:08:24] Creating community: shifting from rabbi-centric to people-centered design.[00:09:49] The drama of synagogue parking on the East Coast vs. San Francisco.[00:10:47] School zoning, “hamlet” drama, and B’Nai Mitzvah scheduling gymnastics.[00:12:49] Navigating churn and the struggle to form lasting community in a transient urban Jewish world.[00:14:35] Family networks and the challenge of building community in suburbs, “competition” for event dates, and differences in lifecycle celebrations.[00:17:04] Addressing food, family, and High Holiday attendance—matzo ball soup, lox, and brisket wars.[00:21:31] Age demographics and the lack of young adults in suburban synagogues.[00:22:05] The ongoing success of young adult programming at Emanuel and the impact of COVID shut-downs.[00:24:03] Comparing professions, entrepreneurism, and risk-taking in the two regions’ communities.[00:26:57] Why innovation—and even failure—is second nature in San Francisco Jewish life.[00:28:05] Wild wedding requests, different definitions of “traditional,” and final thoughts on East vs. West Coast Jewish culture.Tune in to laugh, learn, and have your assumptions about Jewish community turned upside down!
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Ep. 21: What Do Our Texts Teach Us About What Just Happened in Venezuela?
What if the morality of war wasn’t just debated in the halls of Congress, but had been dissected by Jewish scholars for centuries? This week’s episode of "In Such a Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership and Meaning" dives into one of the most dramatic news stories of the week—the U.S. raid to capture Venezuelan President Maduro—and confronts it with the wisdom of Jewish law.Join Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy as they untangle the ancient Jewish principles behind warfare, asking: Was this a defensive act, or a dangerous show of unchecked power? Is there a Jewish lens through which we can make sense of modern international conflicts?Key highlights include:The shocking parallels between Maimonides’ (Rambam's) categories of war—obligatory vs. discretionary—and America’s military actions abroad.Spirited debate about whether Jewish law is still relevant when looking at today’s wars, and why it sometimes feels so personal or so distant.Thoughtful discussion on moral responsibility and the risks of executive power, illustrated by historical comparisons to the Noriega arrest and the current state of democracy in Venezuela.A candid reflection on America’s role in the world: Are we the moral exemplar or simply another self-interested nation? And what happens to our character when leaders stop admitting fault?Touching moments where both rabbis wrestle with personal uncertainty, searching for clarity amidst chaos, and reflect on what it means to be American, Israeli, and Jewish in a turbulent era.If you’ve ever wondered how ancient texts can illuminate the ethical gray areas of today’s headlines—or if you’ve felt uneasy about the intersection of faith, politics, and war—this episode offers honest dialogue, historical context, and challenges listeners to think deeper.Timestamped Episode Overview[00:00:00] – Welcome and introduction byIntro Announcer[00:00:20] –Rabbi Jonathan Jaffeintroduces the topic: Jewish law and the U.S. raid on Venezuela[00:01:27] –Rabbi Leora Londyexplains Rambam’s two categories of war: obligatory vs. discretionary[00:02:19] – Defining the purposes and structure of warfare in Jewish tradition[00:03:07] – Who holds authority in Jewish law: king, Sanhedrin, Urim and Tumim[00:03:55] – Framing the Venezuela raid: Does Jewish law apply? Comparing obligatory and discretionary war[00:06:49] – Debating immediate vs. elective military actions; parallels to Noriega’s arrest[00:13:21] – Concerns about executive power, democracy, and moral boundaries[00:21:04] – Why ancient halacha feels personal in Israel but distant in America[00:25:47] – America’s self-perception as a moral beacon and its changing role in the world[00:30:02] – Contrasting ideologies: rationalism vs. idealism; the need for a moral compass[00:33:06] – The struggle for accountability and responsibility among nations and leaders[00:34:53] – Waging war ethically: the necessity of humility and self-examination[00:37:13] – Democracy vs. dictatorship: Reflections on Venezuela, Israel, and world leadership[00:38:37] – Closing thoughts and call to subscribeDon’t miss this episode—where timeless Jewish wisdom meets the unpredictability of current events.
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Ep. 20: What Does Judaism Teach About Bereavement and the Afterlife? PART 2
What if your most meaningful connection to your loved ones—after they’re gone—comes from how you choose to mourn, not what you do for them? This week’s episode of In Such a Time asks: Who is Shiva really for, and what happens when centuries-old Jewish burial traditions face modern challenges like cremation and composting?Join Rabbi Leora Londy and Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe for a deeply thoughtful—and sometimes unexpected—conversation on Jewish rituals surrounding death, the afterlife, and mourning. From the sometimes misunderstood observance of Shiva to the dilemmas posed by new trends like green burials and body composting, our rabbis pull back the curtain on the complex layers of Jewish tradition, personal choice, and communal responsibility.Key highlights include:The origins and real purpose of Shiva, including heartfelt advice for mourners: “Shiva is for you, not for your loved one.”Honest, often personal reflections on cremation, including its conflict with Jewish law, traumatic historical memory, and practical realities—and why rabbis struggle with their role.A candid look at composting and other eco-friendly burial options—are these spiritual, practical, or just disruptive to centuries of Jewish practice?The hidden beauty of Jewish cemeteries: how physical spaces and shared rituals connect generations and keep memory alive.Why making clear funeral and burial arrangements might be one of the greatest gifts you can leave for those you love.Touching stories—from Israeli cemeteries to family legacy—and conversations about how remembering the dead shapes the lives of the living.Whether you’re wrestling with end-of-life choices, supporting someone grieving, or questioning how tradition fits in a changing world, this episode delivers honest wisdom, fascinating history, and practical insight—with warmth and a sense of humor.Episode Overview with Timestamps:[00:00:00] Introduction: Framing Jewish leadership and meaning in times of loss.[00:00:30] Common questions about Shiva and “how long is seven, Rabbi?”[00:01:10] The true roots and observance of Shiva—and how it’s often misunderstood or transformed into dinner parties.[00:02:20] Anxiety around hosting Shiva and the importance of letting mourners mourn.[00:03:10] Balancing tradition and meeting people where they’re at—providing halakhic guides and honoring personal choice.[00:04:43] Discussion: Social aspects of Shiva and its evolving forms across regions.[00:06:15] Shiva: For mourners, not the deceased.[00:08:00] Different regional cultural expectations for Shiva.[00:09:25] Cremation: Personal stories, theological and historical dilemmas (Holocaust memory, ecological concerns).[00:14:22] Jewish view of the body’s holiness and why physical burial matters—including anecdotes from Israel and experience with non-traditional burials.[00:21:12] The spiritual and psychological importance of laying bodies to rest.[00:23:30] The rise of composting/green burial: What’s Jewish? What’s not?[00:24:22] The unique meaning and connections created by family cemeteries, legacy, and memorialization.[00:29:37] Russian-Jewish headstones: how burial traditions reflect cultural adaptation.[00:31:18] Hawaii’s ocean burials—and what it reveals about community, place, and memory.[00:33:00] What rabbis can (and can’t) bless in terms of burial—and why tradition continues to matter.[00:34:30] Medieval midrash: Remembering the dead as healing for the living.[00:37:03] Final advice: Why preparing clear burial wishes is a gift to your loved ones.[00:39:21] Closing: How Jewish tradition supports mourners and the enduring power of legacy.Ready to uncover what Jewish tradition really says about death—and what it means for the living? Listen now.
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Ep. 19: What Does Judaism Teach About Bereavement and the Afterlife? PART 1
What if Judaism doesn’t have a clear doctrine about the afterlife?In this eye-opening, two-part episode of "In Such a Time," Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy unravel one of the most avoided—and misunderstood—topics in Jewish life: death, grief, and what comes “next.” From candid childhood questions to the complexities of funerals in Israel, the hosts dive deep into how Jews talk (or don’t talk) about death, and why our discomfort might reveal more than our beliefs.Key highlights include:The shock of how little the Torah directly says about the afterlife, in contrast to other religionsRabbi Jonathan Jaffe breaking down four main Jewish "lanes" of belief surrounding death—from physical resurrection to the impact of legacyRabbi Leora Londy sharing poignant stories of children processing loss, and the transformative role of the chevra kadisha (burial society)A frank discussion on the differences between Israeli and American funerals, and how culture and superstition shape ritualHonest confession from both rabbis about what they actually believe, why certainty isn’t necessary, and how Jewish ritual helps everyone—doubters and believers alike—find meaning and comfortPowerful guidance on grief, remembrance, and why funerals might be the most life-affirming Jewish event of allIf you think death is a subject left for whispers and dark corners, this episode will surprise you. Prepare for stories that break open taboos, challenge easy answers, and equip you for the moments that matter most.Timestamped Overview:00:00 –Intro Announcersets the stage for a frank conversation on Jewish life, leadership, and meaning00:20 –Rabbi Jonathan Jaffeintroduces the theme: Jewish beliefs about death and the afterlife, sparked by a congregant’s experience at a Christian funeral01:36 –Rabbi Leora Londydiscusses why Jews avoid talking about death and how childhood questions unlock the topic03:25 – The role of children at funerals and how Jewish burial practices confront the reality of death05:01 – Cultural contrasts between American and Israeli funerals and the existential weight of remembrance in Israel07:16 –Rabbi Jonathan Jaffeoutlines four central Jewish perspectives on the afterlife—physical resurrection, spiritual afterlife, return to the divine, and legacy through memory12:46 –Rabbi Leora LondyRabbi Jonathan Jaffeandget personal about their own beliefs and the comfort (and discomfort) around religious “certainty”17:15 – Why funerals are life-affirming, and what Jews really remember about their loved ones29:39 – The emotional toll of officiating and mourning, and how Jewish ritual provides structure to weather grief35:50 – Yearly rituals, Yizkor, and how communities continually support mourners38:56 – The power of commemorating death days (Yahrzeit), tying together loss and new beginnings39:53 – What’s next: A preview of part two with practical questions around Jewish mourning and the afterlifeThis episode is packed with insights, vulnerability, and guidance for anyone grappling with questions of mortality—Jewish or not.
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Ep. 18: Should Jews Still Feel Safe in the Diaspora?
What if being publicly Jewish came with new dangers—even in places you’ve always felt safe? In this riveting episode of "In Such a Time," Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Londy confront the unsettling reality facing Jewish communities after a horrific attack at Bondi Beach in Australia, which has sent shockwaves throughout the Diaspora. Together, they grapple with what this tragedy means for Jewish identity, communal gatherings, and the very notion of safety in Jewish spaces both in America and abroad.Listeners will be drawn into a deep and raw discussion about fear, resilience, and anger. Rabbi Leora Londy shares the heartbreak of responding to her child’s worries and reflects on the tension between pride and self-preservation. Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe, wrestling with frustration, questions whether Jews will ever again gather freely outdoors, and challenges the community’s growing acceptance of security restrictions as a new normal.The episode also takes an honest look at how American Jews perceive Israel—debunking alarmist caricatures and exploring why its reality often differs so greatly from the images projected abroad. The rabbis dive into historic responses to persecution, examine the complex interplay between Diaspora and Israeli Jewish life, and fiercely defend the importance of living Jewishly with pride and substance, not just in reaction to hatred.Throughout, listeners will hear the rabbis reflect on mourning, heroism, the major schisms in Jewish history, and the new anxieties shaping conversations about aliyah, travel, and the future of Jewish safety. Finally, the episode closes on a note of hope—seeing Jewish strength shine, even as communities everywhere light Hanukkah candles under challenging circumstances.Episode Overview:[00:00:00] Introduction and dedication to victims of Bondi Beach attack[00:01:22] Processing the tragedy: Emotional responses, conversations with children, and the fear of not being fully safe[00:03:39] Anger, leadership failures, and questions about the future of public Jewish gatherings[00:05:38] The ongoing dialogue about anti-Semitism, Jewish identity, and how the world’s hate often targets Jews first[00:07:54] Reflecting on security in Diaspora communities and the shift from openness to restriction[00:13:39] Lessons from Jewish history: Resilience, authenticity, martyrdom vs. self-preservation[00:21:05] American Jewish perceptions of Israel and addressing myths vs. reality[00:27:20] The miracle and challenges of Israel, Diaspora connections, and the power of multicultural Jewish life[00:38:28] Closing: Safety in Israel vs. Diaspora, evaluating risks, and the evolving dream of Zionism[00:42:19] Outro and ways to connect with the rabbis and Temple Bethel episode is a must-listen for anyone thinking deeply about Jewish identity, community safety, and the choices facing Jews today.
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Ep. 17: What can we learn from the holiday of Hanukkah and the story of the Maccabees?
What if everything you thought you knew about Hanukkah was wrong? In this episode of "In Such a Time," Rabbis Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy unravel the true story behind the Festival of Lights—revealing its messy origins, historical surprises, and the wild ways its meaning keeps evolving. Is Hanukkah really about fighting oppression… or is there much more below the surface? You’ll hear the rabbis candidly discuss childhood memories, Israeli traditions, the role of food (think sufganiyot and homemade beeswax candles), and why the holiday's symbolism differs so sharply between America and Israel.Key highlights include:The surprising roots of Hanukkah: Why the Maccabees’ story isn’t in the Bible—and why their zealotry may shock modern listeners.Hanukkah’s dual identity: How Zionist, secular, and religious communities reinterpret the holiday to suit their values.The tension between assimilation and tradition: How American Jews have transformed Hanukkah into a holiday of inclusion, and what that means for Jewish identity today.Personal anecdotes: From New York winter darkness to Israeli honey-sweet celebrations, and the powerful memory of lighting a Hanukkiah made from bullet casings in a military town.Honest conversations about changing rituals, the influence of Christmas, and what the next generation of Hanukkah might look like.With wit, warmth, and deep historical insight, this episode is both a celebration and a challenge: How do Jews stay rooted in tradition without losing relevance—or their distinctiveness—in a changing world? If you’re looking to deepen your understanding of Hanukkah and reflect on what “Jewish continuity” really means, this discussion is for you.Episode Overview:[00:00:00] Introduction & Podcast Welcome[00:00:21] Hanukkah Childhood Memories and Family Traditions[00:01:28] Hanukkah in Israel: Sufganiyot, Candle Lighting, and Community Celebrations[00:02:57] Hanukkah as a Zionist Holiday & Massive Lego Hanukkiah[00:03:49] Hanukkah in New York vs. Hawaii: Seasonal Contrasts[00:05:36] Hanukkah’s Home-Based Traditions & Changing Rituals[00:07:03] The Real Story Behind Hanukkah: Civil War, Disorganized Religion, and Changing Narratives[00:08:12] The Hasmonean Ruins & The Drive for Jewish Continuity[00:10:37] Rededication, Sukkot Connection, and the Miracle Narrative[00:13:25] The Maccabees: Zealotry vs. Modern Reinterpretation[00:15:20] Hanukkah in the U.S.: Diversity, Inclusion, and Christmas Influence[00:16:12] The Maccabees as Enforcers? A Modern Comparison[00:17:08] Religious vs. Secular Observance: Miracle or Resilience[00:18:00] The Miracle of Light: Faith, Ritual, and Meaning[00:20:03] Hanukkah and Jewish Survival: Assimilation & Persistence[00:22:20] Tradition vs. Change: How Hanukkah Has Evolved[00:23:41] Ranking Jewish Holidays and Hanukkah’s Changing Status[00:24:55] How Shifting Priorities Shape Jewish Observance[00:26:30] The Next Generation: Hanukkah’s Bittersweet Future[00:29:33] History Moves in Cycles: Rediscovering Hanukkah’s Deeper Meaning[00:30:24] The Importance of Keeping Judaism Jewish[00:34:08] Hanukkiot of Bullet Casings: Military Memory and Jewish Identity[00:36:04] The Responsibility & Symbolism of Israeli Militarism[00:37:00] Closing Reflections and a Wish for a Joyful, Meaningful HanukkahTune in and discover the Hanukkah you never knew—and may never see the same way again.
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Ep. 16: Should we continue to organize American Jewish life by denomination?
What happens when synagogue affiliation is no longer defined by denominational labels like Reform, Conservative, or Orthodox—but instead, by politics and stances on Israel?In this eye-opening episode of Lou Diamond: In Such a Time (“Episode 16”), co-hosts Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy dive deep into the shifting landscape of American Jewish life. The conversation shatters assumptions about how Jews identify today, revealing that denominational boundaries may be fading while politics—especially relating to Israel—ramp up as the decisive factor in community engagement.You’ll learn about:The historical roots of Jewish denominations and why the original purpose behind them may no longer resonate.The personal journeys of Rabbi Leora Londy and Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe, who share how growing up across multiple Jewish movements shaped their perspectives and spiritual fluidity.How synagogue membership and Jewish organization participation are being increasingly determined by political views, particularly regarding Zionism and Israel—and the risks of turning Jewish communities into political islands.Insider stories about rabbis, educational choices, and what happens when congregants challenge a synagogue’s stance on Israel.The tension between the desire for inclusive, meaningful spiritual communities and the pressure to pick sides on hot-button issues.The big question: As individualism and politics reshape Jewish engagement, what does the future hold for denominational labels, communal boundaries, and the essence of Jewish identity?Whether you’re a curious seeker, committed member, or just passionate about the evolving story of Jewish life, this conversation will spark reflection and debate. Are we at the threshold of a “wilderness moment” where communal norms are up for reinvention—or are we risking fragmentation beyond repair?Timestamped Episode Overview:[00:00:00] Welcome and episode intro: redefining Jewish affiliation[00:00:22] History of Jewish denominations[00:01:58] The evolution of Reform, Conservative, and Orthodox movements[00:03:15] Personal experiences of movement fluidity[00:05:45] Blending of denominational practices in modern synagogues[00:09:26] Gender perspectives and synagogue inclusion[00:13:31] Navigating Jewish spaces—where do rabbis go to pray?[00:19:16] The rise of politics as the organizing principle in Jewish life[00:23:05] Polarization over Israel and Zionism: personal stories and concerns[00:32:04] Balancing community inclusivity with core synagogue values[00:36:35] Should politics take center stage in the synagogue?[00:41:04] Responding to antisemitism and its impact on Jewish identity[00:41:54] The future: movements, organizations, individualism, and spiritual belonging[00:44:40] Closing reflections and gratitudeDon’t miss this provocative episode—subscribe and join the conversation as Judaism faces one of its most defining crossroads.
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Ep. 15: What are our expectations for how rabbis should look and present themselves?
What if your rabbi’s outfit had more to do with your spiritual experience than you ever imagined? In this eye-opening episode of In Such a Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership and Meaning, Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Landi dive deep into the controversial world of fashion, physical presentation, and the unique scrutiny faced by rabbis—especially women—in Jewish communities.You’ll be shocked by the stories shared, from being asked to “turn into a man” for ceremonies in Israel to being gifted shoes by congregants in the U.S., all revealing just how much clergy are judged by how they look, and how these judgments intersect with power, gender, and leadership. Rabbi Landi opens up about the internal and external pressures faced around style, body image, and what it means to “look” like a rabbi, while Rabbi Jaffe explores the low expectations men benefit from and what happens when these stereotypes get perpetuated—even by bobbleheads!The conversation isn’t just about clothes: it’s about identity, boundaries, values, and how congregational norms shape everything—even which career doors open for female and LGBTQ rabbis. From the theological meaning behind priestly garments in the Torah to the real-life negotiations rabbis must make between authenticity and relatability, this episode will make you rethink what you see (and don’t see) at the pulpit.Whether it’s deciding what to wear for the High Holidays, figuring out the messaging behind headbands and kipot, or considering the subtle double standards for women in leadership, Rabbis Jaffe and Landi bring humor, vulnerability, and gripping honesty to a taboo topic. If you’ve ever wondered how much appearance matters in sacred spaces—or how to respectfully address your clergy—this is the episode you can’t miss.Episode Highlights & Timestamped Overview:[00:00:00] Intro: What rabbis look like and why congregations care[00:01:17] Rabbi Landi’s Israel stories: Being asked to find a man for ceremonies[00:02:45] Challenges for women in leadership; rabbinic fashion scrutiny[00:04:17] Real congregant interactions: Unexpected comments and gifts[00:05:10] Bobbleheads & Rabbi stereotypes: The “old man” caricature[00:06:09] Clothing, identity & Torah: Meaning behind priestly garments[00:10:16] Formality, approachability, and synagogue culture shift[00:11:01] Robes, tallit, and the pressures of female clergy presentation[00:12:11] Gender roles, dress codes, and contradictory feelings[00:13:05] Head coverings as a statement: Politics, identity, and fashion[00:17:07] Synagogue “norms”; double standards for female clergy[00:19:02] Navigating rabbinic identity in Israel vs. the U.S.[00:23:29] The “whole package” dilemma for female rabbis[00:26:05] Authenticity and relatability: Sharing personal life on the bima[00:32:10] Dress & awe: Creating sacred moments vs. showing up “as you are”[00:34:46] Gendered interactions: Congregant stories about body boundaries[00:38:41] Practical advice for respectfully addressing female clergy[00:41:14] Social media, taboo, and owning rabbinic styleDownload, listen, and join the conversation on Jewish leadership, identity, and what’s truly “appropriate” on the bima.
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Ep. 14: Should We Set Limits to How Jews Participate in Non-Jewish Holidays Like Thanksgiving?
What happens when two rabbis admit they don't really like Thanksgiving—and one confesses he grew up celebrating Christmas with a tree and milk for Santa? In this eye-opening episode of “In Such a Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership and Meaning,” Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy get candid about navigating non-Jewish holidays as Jewish Americans. Get ready for surprising personal stories, moments of humor, and the tough questions faced by modern Jewish families as they balance tradition, assimilation, and the lure (or loathing) of turkey and tinsel.From volunteering at homeless shelters in lieu of turkey dinner, to longing for forbidden Halloween costumes, to the boundaries (and blurry lines) around Christmas trees, this week’s conversation is a heartfelt exploration of what it means to observe—or opt out of—American holidays through a Jewish lens. The hosts dissect where they draw the line between participating in broader cultural moments and holding fast to religious identity, sharing their own family compromises (think: Tofurky and Shabbat trick-or-treating) and how those decisions impact their children.Key Highlights:Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe’s confessions about celebrating both Hanukkah and Christmas as a child—and his take on why Thanksgiving food really isn’t that great.Rabbi Leora Londy’s reflections on volunteering during Thanksgiving and the tension of assimilating while protecting Jewish particularism.Honest dialogue about the "slippery slope" of participating in non-Jewish holidays and the challenge of setting (and justifying) family boundaries.The fascinating story of Russian-Jewish New Year tree traditions (“Novigod”) in Israel, and the reasons we cling to childhood rituals.Advice for navigating questions from congregants about celebrating Christmas, plus a bit of classic Jewish parental guilt for good measure.This episode will challenge your assumptions, make you laugh, and inspire you to think about your own family’s practices in a whole new way.Timestamped Overview:00:00:00 – Intro Announcer sets the stage for this week’s discussion on Jewish life and non-Jewish holidays.00:00:20 –Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy compare their vastly different upbringings around Thanksgiving and other “American” holidays.00:03:43 – The rabbis explore what it’s like to grow up NOT celebrating Halloween or Christmas, and how interfaith work shaped Rabbi Leora Londy’s exposure to other traditions.00:04:42 –Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe shares why he’s never loved Thanksgiving and offers a culinary hot take.00:06:00 – The emotional significance of celebrating Thanksgiving as an immigrant in Israel.00:09:29 – Where do families draw the line? Strategies for handling Thanksgiving, Halloween, and Christmas as Jewish parents.00:13:18 – The complexity of Jewish families celebrating Christmas and Hanukkah together, and the contradictions therein.00:18:48 – The discomfort with blurring boundaries between holidays, “Hanukkah bushes,” and Christian universalism.00:22:11 – How Halloween serves as a test case for American Jewish communities and their boundaries.00:26:44 – The surprise of Novigod “Christmas trees” in Israel and the power of cherished childhood traditions.00:35:02 – Advice for families: How to fill the void with Jewish joy, not just holiday “fixes.”00:38:29 – Outro and resources for further engagement.Whether you cherish your Thanksgiving feast or wonder how to talk to your kids about Christmas lights, this episode offers authentic, thoughtful, and sometimes hilarious insight into Jewish life today.
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Ep. 13: What Ought to Be Our Reaction to Zohran Mamdani’s Mayoral Election and the Jews Who Voted for Him?
What happens when a New York election upends Jewish unity and safety—and a wave of hope collides with centuries-old fears?This electrifying episode of In Such a Time dives deep into the shockwaves reverberating through New York’s Jewish community after Momdani’s mayoral victory. Hosts Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy tackle the complicated fallout, exploring why so many Jews—especially younger, non-Orthodox voters—prioritized values like diversity, economic justice, and inclusion over traditional concerns about Israel and antisemitism.Listeners will be captivated by brutally honest reflections: Why did core Jewish values shift so drastically for a new generation? Is Jewish physical and emotional safety being overlooked in pursuit of broader social ideals? Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe shares candid worries about the privilege of invisibility and the chilling reality for outwardly Jewish New Yorkers, while Rabbi Leora Londy weighs the painful trade-offs between self-interest, women’s safety, and collective Jewish responsibility.Together, the rabbis wrestle with the rise of anti-Zionism, the power of hope, and how flawed media narratives shape Jewish identity and voting patterns. They confront the tension between healing fractured communities and challenging dangerous rhetoric, never shying away from tough questions about assimilation, generational divides, and what it truly means to be a Jew—in New York and beyond.At heart, this episode is a wake-up call: How will Jewish leaders re-engage a community redefined by skepticism, idealism, and unease? Will new hope bring cohesion, or is deeper fracture inevitable?Timestamped Highlights Overview:[00:00:00] – Intro to Jewish Life, Leadership, and current questions facing the community[00:00:29] – Framing the impact of Momdani’s election & generational shifts in Jewish identity[00:02:38] –Rabbi Leora Londyon the erosion of Jewish unity and instilling new values[00:04:26] – Are Jewish safety and cohesion being neglected? Alarm over political rhetoric[00:05:21] – Why young Jews view Israel as less central, even negative; sympathy vs. critique[00:07:17] – The tension between privilege and public Jewish vulnerability[00:08:13] – Fear, hope, and the chilling question: Are New York Jews safe in 2025?[00:11:14] – Voting as Jews, women, and parents: the painful calculus between competing values[00:17:33] – Unpacking Mamdani’s worldview: anti-Zionism, scapegoating, and media influence[00:20:43] – Why young Jews mistrust Israel and how social media warps reality[00:24:50] – The seduction of hopeful narratives and their dark side—rewriting history and risk[00:26:10] – Islamophobia and antisemitism: drawing boundaries, challenging false equivalence[00:31:15] – The privileged pains of New York youth: entitlement, expectation, and disappointment[00:37:02] – Empathy for young voters—real struggles behind the hope[00:39:25] – Jewish leaders’ dilemma: opposition, collaboration, or listening to new voices[00:41:00] – Parenting, education, and reclaiming Jewish identity in a fractured moment[00:44:20] – Hanukkah vs. Purim antisemitism: assimilation’s dangerous cost[00:47:37] – Closing wisdom: The privilege and power of joyful Jewish identityTune in for a riveting, no-holds-barred conversation that challenges, inspires, and demands reflection from Jews—and all New Yorkers—living in such a time.
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Ep. 12: What are the outcomes and challenges of Making B’nei Mitzvah Central to Jewish Life
What if the most celebrated Jewish rite of passage—the B’Nai Mitzvah—has unintentionally become a barrier to lifelong Jewish engagement, rather than the gateway it was meant to be?In this eye-opening episode of “In Such a Time Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership and Meaning,” hosts Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe and Rabbi Leora Londy pull back the curtain on the history, complexities, and personal realities behind the B’Nai Mitzvah, revealing how decades of synagogue decisions have shaped this ritual—from meaningful spiritual transformation to occasionally rote memorization and lavish celebrations.The rabbis candidly share their own B’Nai Mitzvah experiences, highlighting moments of genuine connection—and missed opportunities. They unpack how American synagogue structures evolved to center the B’Nai Mitzvah as the “diploma event” of Jewish life, sometimes at the cost of deeper Jewish education and continuity. Hear their passionate conversation about the pitfalls of conflating Hebrew chanting with Jewish literacy, the impact of outsized parties, and the critical importance of authentic family Jewish practice.Key highlights include: why post-mitzvah engagement matters more than ever, bold questions about the rites and rituals (should we even keep the Haftarah?), and refreshing, practical ideas for parents and communities who want to make Jewish milestones truly meaningful. This episode will challenge you to rethink not only what a B’Nai Mitzvah means—but what it could become.Episode Overview & Timestamps:00:00:00 – 00:04:33: Personal B’Nai Mitzvah memories fromRabbi Leora LondyandRabbi Jonathan Jaffe: the process, communal involvement, and “cramming” for the big day.00:04:34 – 00:08:02: The emotional aftermath, sense of responsibility, and what it means to be counted as part of a minyan.00:08:03 – 00:12:48: The American synagogue’s transformation: How B’Nai Mitzvah became the centerpiece, fueling membership and financial support, and the dangers of equating preparation with genuine education.00:12:51 – 00:17:19: Challenges for continuity: Are we setting kids up for Jewish adulthood, or just for relief when it’s “over”? Thoughts on practical knowledge versus ritual memorization.00:17:20 – 00:28:30: What are the right outcomes? The synagogue’s efforts to foster lasting connection, working with teens, and the importance of community bonds.00:28:31 – 00:33:11: Rethinking curriculum: Real-world Jewish learning, experiential education, and the debate about keeping tradition vs. adapting old rituals.00:33:12 – 00:41:39: The family’s role: Can synagogues make kids Jewish without Jewish homes? Comparative insights from Israel and innovative ideas for deeper spiritual preparation.00:41:40 – 00:47:39: The party paradox: The rise of extravagant celebrations vs. authentic, values-driven alternatives, especially in the wake of COVID restrictions.00:47:40 – 00:53:04: Final reflections: Why lasting identity comes from real involvement, not just ceremonies; passing on Jewish legacy in a way that truly endures.Whether you’re a parent, educator, or lifelong learner, this episode will inspire you to ask the big questions about what Jewish tradition means today—and what it could mean tomorrow.
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Ep 11: What Does Judaism Teach Us About Democracy?
What if the Torah was the original blueprint for democracy?On this eye-opening episode of "In Such a Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership and Meaning," Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Londy dismantle the myth that democracy is a purely modern invention—and reveal its surprising roots in ancient Jewish texts. In a time when democracy faces challenges around the world, Jonathan and Leora mine the wisdom of Deuteronomy, rabbinic debate, the roles of kings, prophets, and priests, and even the construction of the Sanhedrin, to ask: What does Judaism teach us about governance, dissent, and real communal leadership?Key episode highlights include:Why the Torah presents the king as subject to law, not above it, and how that radical idea reshapes our understanding of power.The deep Jewish value of multivocality: robust arguments, multiple truths, and why a room full of loud opinions may actually be the healthiest sign of a community.Candid reflections on the fractures facing American and Israeli democracies, and what remains hopeful when governments falter—grassroots power, resilience, and chutzpah.A powerful discussion on whether we can still build bridges across political divides, or if polarization is the new norm—even in our own Jewish communities.How the process of "writing new Torah" and the real-life stories of Moses, David, and the daughters of Salophchad teach us about adapting and amending our systems for justice.Personal, vulnerable moments: When does Jewish identity outweigh civic identity? How do current events force us to question where we're safe, and who truly represents our values?If you’ve ever wondered how Jewish tradition can light a path through the chaos of modern politics, or if it’s possible to repair democracy using ancient wisdom, this episode is for you.Episode Overview[00:00:00] Introduction and framing: Where democracy and Torah collide[00:02:04] Covenant, community, and how Judaism models democratic debate[00:04:07] Why the king must carry—and obey—the law[00:06:16] The three crowns: Priesthood, monarchy, and Torah for everyone[00:10:35] What Jewish sources teach us about leadership and human flaw[00:13:44] Are American and Israeli democracies really in peril? Differing concerns and historical context[00:17:26] Grassroots activism: What Israel and the U.S. can learn from each other[00:24:40] Political polarization: Is there any room left for “purple” communities?[00:33:20] Can empathy bridge America’s gaping political divide?[00:42:29] Balancing Jewish particularism with civic responsibility[00:44:15] Amendment, adaptation, and lessons from the daughters of Salophchad[00:46:29] The sacredness of open argument—and Hillel vs. Shammai as a model for today[00:48:07] Final reflections: What Jewish values teach us about keeping democracy aliveTune in for real talk, hard questions, and a journey through Jewish text as a roadmap for our moment in history.
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Ep 10: Jewish or American, Which Comes First?
Is Judaism more about peoplehood than religion—and what if “Jewish pride” doesn’t involve Israel at all?This episode is bound to provoke surprising thoughts: Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Londy dive headfirst into one of the most emotionally charged questions facing American Jews today—how central should Israel be in our Jewish identity? From generational divides to personal stories of longing and belonging, the conversation goes far beyond politics, exposing some uncomfortable truths about how our identities as Jews and Americans have evolved.Together, they wrestle with the idea of covenant versus individualism, and the loss of communal responsibility in American society. The hosts share poignant reactions to recent hostage releases in Israel, discuss the role of the Diaspora, and even turn the tables with an idea for “Reverse Birthright”—inviting Israelis to experience the vibrancy and inclusivity of American Jewish life.From family mahjong games to mandatory military service and the divide between prophetic values and peoplehood, this episode asks: What happens when the most vital parts of Judaism outgrow old definitions? Can there be space for Jews who love their tradition but feel ambivalent, or even critical, about Israel?Whether you’re a passionate Zionist, a progressive critic, or somewhere in between, this episode will give you new language—and empathy—to think about how Israel and America shape your Jewish identity.Timestamped Overview:00:00:00 – Intro to the topic: Israel’s place in Jewish identity, generational shifts, and the American-Jewish balance.00:01:15 – Rabbi Londy’s evolution from Zionist upbringing to nuanced connection with Israel and Diaspora.00:04:18 – Rabbi Jaffe: Assimilation patterns, particularism vs. universalism, impact of 1960s pride and Israel’s 1967 war.00:07:35 – The “Jewish first, American second” dilemma and thoughts on future generations.00:10:07 – Generational chapters: Baby boomers, birthright Judaism, and the new Jewish ambivalence toward Israel.00:11:06 – Rabbi Londy’s personal story: Living in Israel vs. American critique, values and Tikkun Olam.00:13:41 – Hostage releases in Israel: Emotional impact vs. religious connection; peoplehood as the heart of Judaism.00:16:12 – Seder’s four children as a metaphor for diverse Jewish responses.00:17:07 – Concerns for those who feel left out by Israel-centered Jewish life; making space for non-Israel-centric Judaism.00:20:03 – “Reverse Birthright” explained: Israelis experiencing American Diaspora Judaism, pluralism, and mutual learning.00:22:12 – Jewish learning in Israel vs. Diaspora: Talmudic roots, multi-generational debate, and complementarity.00:25:56 – Franz Rosenzweig’s warning: Political vs. spiritual Judaism, and effects in Israel.00:26:44 – Where American and Jewish values diverge: Individual freedom vs. communal responsibility and covenant.00:28:50 – Rabbi Londy and teens on activism, responsibility, and civic engagement.00:30:28 – The power of covenant in Israeli life; hostages as personal family, community strength.00:33:42 – Ultra-Orthodox exemption from Israeli military service: Covenant, collective obligation, and emotional resonance.00:34:52 – Decline of communal life and fraternal organizations in America, impact of Covid and individualism.00:37:44 – Free Palestine movement & American activism; longing for community.00:39:32 – Generational culture shifts, communal activities among boomers, and Covid’s aftermath.00:41:34 – Dreaming of “national service” in America; learning from Israeli society.00:42:20 – Closing reflections: Learning from both Americas and Israel, pride in both identities.00:42:47 – Event plug for Reform Judaism in Israel.00:43:31 – Outro and contact information.Ready for a conversation that challenges old paradigms and brings new meaning to Jewish life, leadership, and identity? Tune in now.
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Ep 09: Should We Read the Torah’s Story of Creation as History or Mythology?
What if the creation story in Genesis isn’t meant to be taken literally—or even as history at all?In this thought-provoking episode of "In Such A Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership, and Meaning," Rabbis Leora Londy and Jonathan Jaffe dig deep into the cyclical return to the Torah’s origin stories and uncover how myth, memory, and meaning shape our Jewish identities.Together, they unravel the two versions of creation in Genesis, exploring why these ancient stories still captivate and challenge the Jewish imagination year after year. Is the point of rereading the Torah about discovering new facts, or about remembering deeper truths that have been with us all along? The conversation dives into Jewish tradition’s interplay between myth and reality: Why does Torah remain central even in a world of modern science, evolution, and alternative creation narratives?Rabbis Londy and Jaffe deftly bridge the gap between ancient mythologies and today’s spiritual quests, touching on the power of words, the importance of creating order from chaos, and the humbling notion that we are curators—not conquerors—of the world. You’ll also hear fascinating insights comparing the Jewish story of Eden with its Christian counterpart, and how the banishment from Eden might actually be a blessing.Their discussion gets personal with stories from Israel and rabbinical school, and wraps with hopes for renewal—not just in the Torah cycle, but in our lives and even in the future of Israel itself.Key highlights include:The mystical notion that learning Torah is actually “remembering” what’s already inside us.The significance of reading two creation stories—and why we need both a cosmic and a personal God.How Jewish tradition embraces multiple truths and resists simplistic answers.The role of time, organization, and the spoken word in the Torah’s vision of creation.Reconciling belief in science and evolution with love for the Torah’s stories.Why the Garden of Eden is not a place Jews seek to return to—and what partnership with God really means.Hopes for redemption, renewal, and deeper connection as we begin a new cycle of Torah and face new chapters in Jewish life.Timestamped Overview:00:00:00 – Welcome & Introduction to the new Torah reading cycle00:01:45 – Why Jews reread the Torah: Memory vs. learning, and the journey of Torah00:03:08 – Two Genesis stories: Cosmic vs. personal creation00:06:32 – Creation as organization, not just “making” the world00:09:20 – Creation as birth, mess, and the human struggle for order00:14:13 – The power of words in Torah and daily life00:15:01 – Jewish mythology versus other ancient mythologies00:18:38 – A rabbinic story: Can evolution and Torah coexist?00:23:13 – Why the Torah remains “our story” and shapes Jewish perspective00:25:30 – Humility and responsibility: Humanity’s role in creation00:27:31 – Eden: Why Jews embrace imperfection and creation outside paradise00:31:08 – Kabbalah, withdrawal, and the space for human partnership00:32:46 – Intentions for the new Torah cycle00:33:57 – Hopes for renewal and redemption in Torah and Israel00:36:05 – Closing blessings and wrap-upDon’t miss this rich, heartfelt exploration of how the Torah’s oldest stories continue to challenge, renew, and connect us, no matter where—and when—we read them.
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Ep 08: Sukkot: Why Do We Love This Holiday and Why Don’t More People Celebrate it?
What if the secret to a more meaningful, joyful year wasn’t found in a grand temple but inside a flimsy hut exposed to rain, wind, and the unknown?In this energizing episode of “In Such a Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership and Meaning,” Rabbis Leora Londy and Jonathan Jaffe invite listeners into the spiritual heart of Sukkot—the Jewish festival celebrated by literally moving life outdoors into temporary, decorated huts. Together, they reveal how this ancient holiday teaches powerful lessons on impermanence, vulnerability, and the joy of getting lost.You’ll hear Rabbi Londy’s stories of Sukkot traditions from America to Israel—think cotton-walled sukkahs on city balconies and the annual scramble for palm fronds. Rabbi Jaffe reminisces about Jewish holidays in tropical Hawaii and draws inspiration from urban adventures, showing how stepping outside your comfort zone creates deep spiritual growth.Key highlights include:Why Sukkot’s impermanence is actually grounding—and why getting “lost” is essential for spiritual renewal.Personal stories of Sukkahs destroyed by wind, rebuilt with resilience, and the beauty of inviting guests, both real and symbolic.How Sukkot rituals—decorating, gathering, petitioning for rain—build community and echo the transformative journey through the desert.Practical inspiration for making Sukkot meaningful wherever you live, from backyard tents to urban explorations and popping into bustling Jewish neighborhoods for lulav shopping.A recurring theme: that embracing fragility, chaos, and uncertainty adds color and meaning to life.If you’ve ever wondered why a holiday about living in huts can be the most joyful week of the year—or how “getting lost” might just help you find yourself—this episode will surprise and inspire you.Timestamped Episode Overview00:00 — Intro: What makes Sukkot the most joyful Jewish festival?00:20 — The heart of Sukkot: traditions, family, and outdoor living01:39 — Sukkot weather around the world and the agricultural cycle04:32 — Sukkot in American Reform Jewish life: a missed outdoor opportunity?05:41 — Sukkah shopping adventures in Israel and America07:41 — The deeper meaning: joy, tradition, impermanence, and wandering09:15 — Honeymoon or boot camp? The wilderness as spiritual metaphor11:25 — Getting lost: why stepping outside your comfort zone matters13:26 — Sukkot as grounding after the high holidays; why your sukkah must leak!14:31 — Stories: Sukkah destroyed by wind, resilience and rebuilding16:04 — Adventures in getting lost: urban biking, spiritual travel19:13 — Welcoming guests: ushpizin and revisiting Jewish history21:24 — Building and decorating the sukkah: physical and spiritual renewal23:41 — Sukkot as community celebration: Lego, magna tile, graham cracker sukkahs 24:51 — Practical tips for celebrating Sukkot, wherever you are25:57 — Experiencing Sukkot in a lively Jewish neighborhood26:19 — Rabbi Jaffe’s story of spiritual “lostness” in Turkey and Greece28:35 — Life’s fragility and impermanence: Sukkot’s lessons29:31 — Closing wishes and reflectionsReady to get lost—and discover the joy waiting outside your door? Press play and step into the sukkah!
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Ep 07: After the Deal: Challenges, Anger, and Hope in a Transformed Israel
What happens when the entire fate of a nation changes overnight?This episode of "In Such A Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership and Meaning" confronts the raw emotions and heavy realities surrounding Israel’s acceptance of a deal to end the war in Gaza and bring hostages home—a moment Rabbi Jonathan Jaffe describes as “deeply bittersweet” and Rabbi Leora Londy admits left her “speechless.”Join Rabbis Jaffe and Londy as, just hours after this historic news, they share their personal reflections, process their hopes and resentments, and grapple with the consequences for Israel, the Jewish people, and the world. Through honest dialogue, they unpack:The psychic aftermath of a two-year war: loss, trauma, reunification, and enduring painHistoric patterns and spiritual echoes from Jewish liturgy, and the meaning of “return” in Jewish historyDeep anger and disappointment with world responses, double standards, and missed humanitarian opportunitiesThe surge of antisemitism worldwide, its transformation through history, and its impact on diaspora Jewish identityThe unique moral struggles faced by the Israeli public, government, and the IDF in times of warHopes (and fear) for the “day after”: rebuilding, healing, and reimagining Israel and Jewish lifeHow tragedy renews Jewish connection, identity, and community, even in moments of insecurityIn the final moments, Rabbi Londy shares a poignant story from the Israeli front lines—a soldier, the first rain of Sukkot, and stray dogs, offering a message of hope, humanity, and unexpected beauty amid destruction.If you’ve ever wondered what it truly means to live through a moment that will be remembered for generations, this episode is for you.Episode Overview:[00:00:00] Intro & context for the episode: Israel’s accepted ceasefire and hostage deal[00:01:09] Rabbi Londy’s emotional response and reflections on historic cycles[00:03:28] Fractures, losses, bittersweet hopes, and feeling haunted by the bookends of war[00:04:38] Rabbi Jaffe’s gratitude and anger: criticism of global response and missed opportunities[00:07:29] Processing grief, resentment toward Israeli government, and nervousness about the future[00:10:11] The morality of the IDF, government missteps, and dreams for redeemed leadership[00:13:03] An “MRI” of Jew-hatred: the shocking visibility of antisemitism worldwide[00:15:31] Rabbi Londy’s hope vs. fear: Is the majority of humanity hateful or just silent?[00:17:22] Turning to Judaism in the face of threat—and the challenge of sustaining that connection[00:18:26] Three eras of Jew-hatred & Israel as the new focal point[00:22:16] Reclaiming family: Renewed bonds among Jews amid crisis[00:23:02] Personal stories: When did the rabbis first feel Jew-hatred?[00:28:18] Disagreement, worries, and hope for Israel’s future[00:31:13] A soldier, rain, and stray dogs—finding beauty and faith at war’s end[00:32:47] Closing prayers and reflections for a better future[00:33:06] Outro and resourcesListen for a gripping, deeply personal conversation that will stay with you long after the episode ends.
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Special Episode: Yom Kippur Sermon: Our Hope is Not Yet Lost
What if one of the most influential anthems of hope—Hatikvah—was written by a restless, misunderstood family outcast?In this special Yom Kippur episode of "In Such a Time: Conversations on Jewish Life, Leadership and Meaning," Rabbi Leora Londy unveils a deeply personal and surprising family connection to Naftali Hertz Imber, the poet behind the immortal words of Hatikvah, Israel's national anthem. Through the story of her own genealogical journey, Rabbi Londy explores not only the origins of these iconic lyrics but uncovers how hope is woven into the very DNA of the Jewish people.Join Rabbis Leora Londy and Jonathan Jaffe as they reflect on the true nature of hope in our faith tradition—how it's not just a passive feeling but an active choice and collective mission, especially in times of uncertainty and division. Hear poignant moments from Jewish history, the complexity of present-day challenges in Israel and America, and a heartfelt call for unity, resilience, and communal action. This episode will leave you inspired to not only yearn for a better world but to help create it, together.Timestamps & Episode Overview:[00:00:00] Intro: Exploring Jewish life, meaning & leadership[00:00:20] Sharing high holiday sermons with the podcast community[00:00:36] Rabbi Londy begins her sermon, introducing her Ancestry.com search and family history[00:01:39] The incredible story of Naftali Hertz Imber—a complex ancestor and the writer of Hatikvah[00:04:17] Hatikvah’s poetic message and its enduring role as an anthem of hope[00:07:05] Rabbi Jonathan Sacks’ distinction between optimism and hope[00:07:41] Grappling with hope amid modern Jewish and American challenges[00:11:40] The collective power of communal practice—how Yom Kippur reweaves the fabric of Jewish identity[00:13:38] The strength of inclusive, supportive Jewish community at Beth El[00:15:36] Personal reflections on overcoming worry, reclaiming agency, and finding hope through heritage[00:16:29] A blessing for hope, resilience, and restorative community in the new yearIf you’re seeking inspiration on how to stay hopeful—no matter how fractured the world may feel—this episode is for you.
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IN SUCH A TIME is a podcast from Temple Beth El of Northern Westchester, hosted by Rabbis Jonathan Jaffe and Leora Londy. Through candid conversations and thoughtful reflection, the rabbis explore what it means to live, lead, and seek meaning through a Jewish lens. From personal stories to pressing issues, each episode invites listeners into a timely dialogue about Jewish life — in such a time as this.
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