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EPISODE · Apr 28, 2026 · 51 MIN

EP 489 - Where The Smart Money Is Quietly Moving Right Now w/ Drew Wiard

from Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast · host Mike DeHaan

What did you think of todays show??Most fund operators get paid whether your money performs or not — acquisition fees, management fees, prefs that don't actually pay until years in. Drew Wiard built his fund the opposite way: zero fees, and he personally guarantees every loan, so he doesn't get paid until you do. In this episode, Drew is back for round four on why that skin-in-the-game structure is the alignment most operators won't touch, why industrial is the unsexy corner of the market nobody posts about on Instagram, and bonus depreciation that puts 20–30% of your capital back in year one.Topics discussed:Introduction (00:00)Why finance-space culture is so different from real estate (03:13)Multi-family vs. single-family — where's the downside really at? (08:15)Why lenders are bypassing appraisals entirely (10:48)The DSCR fraud ring lenders are still cleaning up (13:25)Inside Drew's commercial industrial fund (16:49)The personal-guarantee structure most operators won't touch (21:55)Why industrial real estate isn't on Instagram (and why that's the opportunity) (25:25)Triple net leases and how Drew adds value without flipping (30:32)The 20–30% bonus depreciation play for high-W-2 earners (32:55)Investment thesis discipline: make money, don't lose money (37:22)Concentration risk and the case for taking chips off the table (46:25)Sign up to join the FREE Scale Community! https://collectingkeys.com/Want deeper breakdowns like this every week? Subscribe to the Collecting Keys newsletter! https://collectingkeys.com/newsletter/Connect with Drew Wiard:https://www.linkedin.com/in/drew-wiard-4b99bba3/https://www.instagram.com/theflyinginvestorFollow us on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/collectingkeyspodcast/https://www.instagram.com/mike_invests/https://www.instagram.com/investormandan/https://www.instagram.com/dylan_does_dealsThis episode was produced by Podcast Boutique https://www.podcastboutique.com

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What did you think of todays show?? Most fund operators get paid whether your money performs or not — acquisition fees, management fees, prefs that don't actually pay until years in. Drew Wiard built his fund the opposite way: zero fees, and he personally guarantees every loan, so he doesn't get paid until you do. In this episode, Drew is back for round four on why that skin-in-the-game structure is the alignment most operators won't touch, why industrial is the unsexy corner of the market no...

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