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EPISODE · Jun 15, 2026 · 59 MIN

Ep 5: and THAT's Survival Mode 🌈

from and THAT's a pod convo · host John Jacob

This week, Jed and John Jacob are fresh off Pride Weekend and asking the important questions: Are our toxic traits actually personality traits? Why are fish photos still happening on dating apps? And who decided group photos belong in a Tinder profile?From flip phones and moving out for the first time to validation seeking, hyper-independence, trust issues, and whether the apps helped or hurt, the boys unpack the survival mechanisms they've picked up along the way—and the ones they're still trying to leave behind.Plus, the return of and THAT's 1 Thing Straight & 2 Things Gay, where listeners write in looking for advice on dating, self-worth, vulnerability, and the complicated art of letting people in.Come for the Pride stories. Stay for the emotional growth, dating app grievances, and the realization that maybe we're all just trying our best....and THAT's a pod convo.Instagram: @AndTHATsApodConvoPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/andTHATsaPodConvoTikTok: andthatsapodconvo_1Send us Fan Mail

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This week, Jed and John Jacob are fresh off Pride Weekend and asking the important questions: Are our toxic traits actually personality traits? Why are fish photos still happening on dating apps? And who decided group photos belong in a Tinder profile? From flip phones and moving out for the first time to validation seeking, hyper-independence, trust issues, and whether the apps helped or hurt, the boys unpack the survival mechanisms they've picked up along the way—and the ones they're still ...

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