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Ep 8: and THAT's Red, White, and CHAOS! 🎇

from and THAT's a pod convo · host John Jacob

🚨 BREAKING NEWS: John Jacob went on a date. 🤯No, seriously. We were just as shocked as you are.This week's Fourth of July episode starts with one innocent question: What's more American—a hot dog 🌭or a burger🍔?Before long, we're debating whether a hot dog is even a sandwich, making entirely too many jokes about a meat between two buns, questioning if sparklers ✨are secretly tiny weapons, and asking the question America has been too afraid to answer:Is the Costco food court a restaurant... and can it actually count as a date?(According to Jed... absolutely.)We also unpack John Jacob's unexpected Fourth of July date—despite the running joke that he may, in fact, hate men—build our ultimate summer survival pack, and even take a moment to talk about what we actually mean when we say "American." Because while we're celebrating the 🇺🇸United States this week, North America is a whole continent... which means our neighbors in 🇨🇦Canada and 🇲🇽Mexico are Americans too. Consider this your one educational moment before we immediately return to arguing about hot dogs.Plus, we debut a brand-new game: and THAT's Red🔴, White⚪️ & WHY? Can we tell the difference between a Florida headline, a fake headline, or something involving fireworks? Honestly... Florida makes this way harder than it should be.So grab a burger... or a hot dog (we're still arguing), throw on some sunscreen, refill your $1.50 Costco soda🥤, and join us for an episode full of summer chaos, explosive opinions🧨, questionable dating choices, unnecessary debates, and conversations that absolutely should've stayed at the BBQ.🍗...and THAT's a pod convo.Send us Fan Mail

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🚨 BREAKING NEWS: John Jacob went on a date. 🤯 No, seriously. We were just as shocked as you are. This week's Fourth of July episode starts with one innocent question: What's more American—a hot dog 🌭or a burger🍔?Before long, we're debating whether a hot dog is even a sandwich, making entirely too many jokes about a meat between two buns, questioning if sparklers ✨are secretly tiny weapons, and asking the question America has been too afraid to answer: Is the Costco food court a restaurant... ...

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