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EPISODE · Jun 25, 2026 · 45 MIN

EP215. Change has already happened. Your structures just don't know it yet

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Scott Pulsipher, President of Western Governors University, and Sasha Thackaberry-Voinovich, President of New State University, opened HEDx at UTS with an uncomfortable truth: institutions that waited for the right moment to transform had already fallen behind. Scott reflected on 25 years of building WGU outside the boundaries of traditional higher education — and warned that even that model is already legacy. Sasha reinforced it from her own experience: she left a career in traditional higher education to co-found a university from the ground up in under a year, because existing structures could not move at the pace that change demands. Her challenge to the room: how did you operate differently this week than you did last week?

Scott Pulsipher, President of Western Governors University, and Sasha Thackaberry-Voinovich, President of New State University, opened HEDx at UTS with an uncomfortable truth: institutions that waited for the right moment to transform had already fallen behind. Scott reflected on 25 years of building WGU outside the boundaries of traditional higher education — and warned that even that model is already legacy. Sasha reinforced it from her own experience: she left a career in traditional higher education to co-found a university from the ground up in under a year, because existing structures could not move at the pace that change demands. Her challenge to the room: how did you operate differently this week than you did last week?

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