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Ep23 孔子谈「识人」与「品德」
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儒家认为,什么样的人是「具有良好品德的人」?我们该如何区分真正的德性和伪装的德性?通过策论文之类的书面考试来「考察」品德,儒家认为可行吗?时间轴0:00 Part I – 聊了聊识人不准的经历。8:29 Part II -- 儒家关于品德评估的主张 Confucians on the Assessment of Character8:30 介绍节选段落10:53《论语》2.9:通过人的私下行为评估品德 assessing character through one's private behavior19:14《论语》2.10:评估品德的操作指引 instructionsfor character assessment29:26 德性与「乐」的关系 virtue and enjoyment34:03 对「德性—享受」关系的质疑:有些德性行为不是很难做到吗?objection to thevirtue-enjoyment connection: aren't there some virtuous acts that are difficult to do?40:15科举考试是否真的能「测试德性」吗?did the civil service exams successfully "test" for virtue?58:20 考试制度是否对学习动机产生了不良影响?did the exam system have a pernicious effect on people's motives to learn?1:03:10 《论语》2.9与2.10对后世品德评估的影响 the influence ofAnalects 2.9 and 2.10 on later views about character assessment重点讨论段落子曰:「吾与回言终日,不违如愚。退而省其私,亦足以发。回也,不愚。」(《论语·为政》 2.9, English version: Edward Slingerland’s translation)子曰:「视其所以,观其所由,察其所安。人焉廋哉?人焉廋哉?」(《论语·为政》 2.10, English version: Edward Slingerland’s translation)目前节目持续更新中,每周一与你见面,欢迎订阅收听!如果你有任何想法或建议,欢迎在评论区留言,或前往 Warp, Weft, and Way 网站参与讨论。其他参考资料YanHui 颜回 (孔子的得意门生, late 6th and early 5th-century BCE)Analects 5.9 (孔子暗示颜回对「道」的领会或许甚至超过孔子自己…maybe)Analects 11.9-11.10 (颜回死后孔子悲痛不已)Zhu Xi 朱熹 (1130-1200, 宋代儒家哲学家与重要注释家)Analects 6.20 (知之者不如好之者,好之者不如乐之者)Analects 7.34 (为之不厌,诲人不倦)Justin Tiwald and Jeremy Reid, “Meritocracy and the Tests of Virtue in Greek and Confucian Political Thought““indefatigable” (形容真正的德性在合理范围内「不易令人疲惫」,与虚假德性相反)韩愈 (768-824 CE, 唐代儒者)Analects 14.24 (古之学者为己,今之学者为人。)李滉(号退溪,1501—1570,朝鲜儒者,批评考试文化)特别鸣谢 The Hong Kong Ethics Lab 的支持和赞助,以及 Warp, Weft and Way 网站对讨论环节的支持。主持人:Richard Kim's websiteJustin Tiwald's website音频剪辑 & 中文 show notes: Lena在小宇宙查看该单集文稿
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