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EPISODE · Oct 10, 2025 · 51 MIN

Episode 101: Recontextualizing Leadership with Dr. Rob Lion Part Two

from Keeping It Real with Tiff and Carl · host Carl Damian Rabun

Part Two of our conversation with our esteemed guest continues the conversation on the trends and challenges faced in the leadership sphere, as well as a discussion on how Human Resources can been seen as an effective partner. We hope you appreciate Rob's thoughtful and unique perspective on effective leadership in today's work world. Dr. Lion's bio is below.Dr. Rob Lion (pronounced “Lee-own”) is a professor of human resource development at Idaho State University and co-founder of Black River Performance Management. With over 20 years of experience in leadership, organizational development, and performance improvement, Rob is recognized for challenging conventional wisdom with a human-centered, yet often contrarian, approach to developing stronger leaders and healthier organizations.Drawing on workplace psychology and behavioral science, he simplifies leadership complexities and delivers practical, evidence-based strategies that drive meaningful results. Rob has appeared on more than 40 podcasts, been featured in TD Magazine for his work on humanistic leadership, and authored numerous academic publications that examine a wide array of niche and novel perspectives—ranging from whether athletes make better hires, to how pronoun use shapes workplace behaviors, to the role ofemotion regulation in motivation. His latest book, The Science of Strategy and Soul (⁠www.blackriverpm.com/ebook⁠), showcases his originalleadership models and unconventional practices that challenge traditional leadership development playbooks.Celebrated for revolutionizing leadership and organizational culture, Rob’s work equips leaders with a comprehensive lens and suite of approaches designed not just to adapt to change, but to rethink the very assumptions that define how organizations thrive.

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