Episode 137: Rosa Rowles - Social Engineer

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Rosa Rowles has spent more than six years as a social engineer, mainly performing vishing calls. She reports that she has made more than 20,000 calls in her career. In this episode, she talks about using OSINT to build a pretext and how she chooses favorite pretexts to fit into a target's own bias. She also explains amygdala hijacking and how the right pretext can put someone's mind into a state where they might not make the best choices. Rosa will be presenting at BSides Tampa on May 16 at 2 pm!

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Rosa Rowles has spent more than six years as a social engineer, mainly performing vishing calls. She reports that she has made more than 20,000 calls in her career. In this episode, she talks about using OSINT to build a pretext and how she chooses...

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