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Jul 13, 2026 10 min

Episode 14 - Before the Next Chapter: How We're Evolving

from He Said, Son Said Hosted by Matt Haverkamp

When we started He Said, Son Said, we thought we were creating a sports podcast. Fourteen episodes later, we've realized it's become something much bigger. In this special episode, we take you behind the scenes to share what we've learned, reflect on the conversations that have shaped us, and explain why the show is evolving. Along the way, we talk about our favorite guests, what goes into producing each episode, and how one interview changed our perspective forever. That realization inspired the next chapter of He Said, Son Said—one focused even more on the stories, relationships, and life lessons that sports make possible. You'll also get a first look at what's ahead with On Their Turf, Pull Up a Chair, and Riding Shotgun, along with a preview of upcoming conversations with Ashanti Johnson, Rex & Sadie Miller, Marisa & Timothy Ridgeway, and the Robinson family. Whether you've been with us since Episode 1 or you're joining us for the first time, thank you for being part of this journey. Because we thought we were building a sports podcast. Turns out, we were building something much bigger. Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation.

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