I'm Scott Dickers. This is the How to Write Funny podcast. My guest today is Jerry Rocha. He's a 20-year stand-up comedy veteran. He's been on Conan, Last Comic Standing, and has a top-selling album on iTunes called Take That Real Dad.
Jerry how long you been doing stand-up? I started right at high school like I was a senior and I would my junior and senior year in high school me and all my buddies would go to this club in Dallas called the backdoor that sounds like a gay bar but it's not and it was like this comedy club and it was so much fun we just see these comedians like and my dad took me there when I was a little kid it was funny like I remember like I had been here before and my dad would take me there because at that location jumped around a couple of places in Dallas and you know I just remember like I've been here you know and then so You know, we would just go all the time. It was so much fun. And then one time I was, you know, right after I graduated high school, I was like 18. And I just saw this little, I just took my girlfriend at the time. I was like, hey, you want to go to the comedy club? I was like, all right. And I had a sign saying, hey, you think you're funny? Like, try open mic. And I'm like, because I didn't, you know, I was already like, I don't want to go to community college. You know, I was like, I just, I wanted to do something entertaining, you know, whatever. And so I was like, yeah, this. I was like.
that's it because i just spent months being like ah stop it since i was 18 like almost 20 years now so is it really that whimsical like you didn't have any necessarily any plan for a career or a job oh yeah i i thought being a comedian i'm making a living as a comedian it just i have just as good of a shot you know being like an astronaut or like a you know like a jet pilot like i was just like you went for it anyway yeah i was like all right and well about the first four years i just stayed in dallas and i just did open mics and clubs and you know four years you said yeah but the first four years i was doing it wouldn't tell us about like maybe 21 22 that actually started going on the road and like oh you can actually like make money doing this comedy just something i would do while i would have day jobs and like which is what i always wanted to do and I would religiously go to the open mics in Dallas and perform there, but I just, for whatever reason, you know, I just didn't think, I was like, oh, come on, there's no way I can make a living at this. It was just kind of like this little dream. I was like, well, at least I get to do it, you know? And then, you know, I just, I was like, wait a minute, you kind of shown like this, this, you know, comedian in Dallas named Neil Edwards, a really, really funny dude, and just kind of took me under his wing and was like, here, here's how you work. And this is, you know, it was like, oh, okay, this can actually happen, you know? So 15, 20 years ago, there's actually a comedy scene in Dallas, Texas. Not really. I mean, it was, it was good. It must have been really small. It was very small.
thriving like i i mean when i go back home it's i don't even i recognize maybe two comedians out of 800 and when i was going up there's maybe 20 you know it was it's just so different and but yeah there was um i was actually talking to a uh uh one of the comedians i'm working with here in sacramento i forgot his name i feel like a dick now but like it was um you know just back then it was it was it was almost, I don't know if it was better or worse, you know, like having so much stage time is such a help, but there was also something to be said to the fact that back when I was doing it, you had one or two nights out of the week to go do standup. And so you had to really, there was no room for error, you know, like there's like, man, this is like the only spot I'm doing all week. Like I really got it, you know, so, but yeah, there was not much of a, I mean, there were a lot of really cool comics. Everybody's really friendly and nice. It was great, but like there wasn't, you know, there was maybe, you know, they had the improv and then the hyenas clubs and that was it, but they really didn't do a hyenas. They didn't even did open mics that club and then the back door and that was it. And this guy, Neil, how long had he been doing? He was a pro. He'd
Really, he was like the biggest fish because he was so funny. Like the dude was just, yeah, it was crazy how good he was. Like it was just, and I felt like it was just, you know, having him suddenly take, you know, it's like, oh, this guy, it's like, it's like, oh shit, man. Like Elvis is going to teach me how to go play music. Like, okay. You know, like that's how you feel. Why did he do that, do you suppose? I guess he thought it was funny. Like he was just, I guess, I don't know. We had a pretty instant rapport and it was fun. And, you know, I just, he was, we both had a very, very, very similar sense of humor. So we were just the two guys who were just cracking each other up at the back of the club, you know, just that kind of stuff. What's he doing now?
Um, you know, that's a great question. We fell out of touch and it was weird. And I, you know, it's, it's a, it's a long, long, I probably couldn't even go into it here. You know, I mean, I still love the guy, but it just, it's one of those things where I don't know if it could ever, does that make sense? It's like a weird, like, and it's, I'm not, I wouldn't, I don't want to bash him. I'm nothing like that. It's, you know, it's not like that. It's just, you know, weird, you know, just got fucked up shit happens and people. But good things for you at that time. Yeah. I mean, we kind of, it was, it was fun. Like it was a really fun, you know, like it was just a really great, amazing couple of years of my life that I don't regret. Like it was awesome. And like, I mean, yeah,
sometimes it gets the better of them. And it's just, you know, a lot of times it's really hard to just, you know, as much as you want to, you kind of realize like, man, if I, I'm going to sink, if I try to save this person as well, you know, like, and so it's just, it's tough. So yeah, but I mean, it was, you know, it was, it was, I mean, it was, it was great. It was fun. And like, I mean, I think he still does it every now and again. It's a, I'll tell, I'll say this. It's a.
crying that he's not a household name because he was uh he was super super i mean super funny just everybody has the ambition or the whatever you need to like break out and go for it in a big way and you clearly did and you moved but you know you moved beyond dallas you started doing yeah you're saying that happened after just four years before you're good enough you thought to go and do other well yeah and i thought okay well let me i still thought like la or new york which there's no way you know like there's so i just started doing you know the road. And, and, and I did it the ass backwards way. I mean, I just went at like old school, like, you know, my friend Neil, like any, any of the clubs that he had juice with, he would hook me up with. Right. And it was, you know, and it was, Hey, it was driving, you know, 20 hours to make 150 bucks. But I was like, okay, you know, and you just pay your dues and all this stuff. And then like the clubs that, um, he didn't have any pull with, I would just start blind calling. I was just sitting out of my, you know, my bedroom in Dallas just every day. Like I remember I would, I worked at a bookstore and I would just on my every break, I would just call comedy clubs and be like, Hey, you know, uh, I can send you a tape. And you know, like I was just hustling, hustling, hustling, just trying to get up as many places as possible. And, and
I mean, and then when I was like a little bit later on, I kind of, you know, I went and stayed with me. He moved back to L.A. and I was there with him in the early 2000s for like eight or nine months and maybe less than about four months. I ran out of money. You know, I was working a job and stuff. It was still tough. And I was like, man, I ran out of money. And I was like, man, all right. So I just went back to Dallas and recharged, you know, worked my ass off for about a year and a half. And I had enough bookstore at a bookstore. And then just I would do I would pick up, you know, I work as Barnes and Noble. So they're really good to work 40 hours. But then I would also it would be a thing where I would, you know, clock out at three o'clock in the afternoon and then drive.
two and a half hours to Louisiana to do like a one nighter and then come back and work the next day. You know, like it was stuff like that. It was like, I mean, I just, and then when I had enough bread saved up, I was like, well, I want to try LA again. But then I was kind of, you know, kind of in like really kind of head over heels with this girl. So she had moved to New York and I was like, well, let me try New York. I had enough money saved up. So I went to New York and then there I met Mike DiStefano and we just became like soulmates. It was just, we were, it was instant best friends. And you know, up until his death, we just talked every day. It was great. And then, so I don't regret moving to New York. But when I was in New York, I just had a nagging feeling about Los Angeles. You know, I was like, you know, just something.
I was doing really good before I had to move there. You know, I was like, man, I want to try to go back. How long were you in New York then? I was in New York about, about 10 months, 10 or 11 months. When abouts was that? God, I want to say 2000. Oh man, seven, maybe six or seven, something like that. And were you sort of doing alternative clubs at that point? No, no, I was actually doing a very, very, um, a club that in fact, a lot of people hated in New York, but I, it just, it.
The owners were interested. The owner was an interesting dude. A lot of comics hated him. He wasn't nice to a lot of comedians, but he was really nice to myself and my friend Mike. So it was called The Ha. I don't even know if it's there anymore, but I loved it. I mean, it was, it was, you know, yeah, it was one of those clubs where you were never going to get in the industry to come see you. Like no agent would walk in there. No manager. It was all tourists, but.
I'll take, when you're, here's how, here's how I looked at it. Before I got to that club, and I'll tell this to any comedian who's starting off, do the shittiest gigs possible. Do the, if you go to a bar and nobody's paying attention and it's rowdy, then go up first. You know, eat that bullet. It just makes you so, in this club, it was a good room, but it was all tourists. So that's a tough crowd, man, because tourists, and then you would find, you know, some comedians that they would book there were just perfect for tourists.
And they would just get standing ovations. And it was with kind of cheesy, you know, and then, but then it's like, you have to learn to just be yourself and then follow that. And of course, the first couple of times I would just eat shit, but then eventually it's like, man, I'm doing just as good now. And it's like, oh, this is, it toughened me up really. Cause I, I would, I love that room. I mean, I know a lot of comics hated it and stuff.
maybe they had their valid reasons. Cause you know, one of the owners was that he was pretty shitty to certain comics. I was like, I mean, yeah, I'm not going to deny that, but I saw, I saw it, but he was great to us. And it was like, well, all right. I mean, I guess you just go where they want you. Right. And so what about your material? You, you started in Dallas and it sounds like you were, when you would go on the road, it would be, you know, Louisiana or whatever. Did you have a kind of a Southern act or did you have a real character based or it was inversely appealing type of act or what, you know, the act you were going for. Man, I can't even tell you what I was going like.
I've always just thought, you know, I want to do what I think is funny. And, you know, and I think everything like I think there are, you know, guys, there are G rated. right? Squeaky clean comedians who will have me rolling. And then there are guys like Doug Stanhope or the opposite of the spectrum who I think are just brilliant to have me rolling. You know, like it's, I love all kinds, you know, like if it's good, it's good. So I, I, you know, I'm a little bit silly. I get, I can try, I do get irreverent and, you know, kind of, you know, like, you know, like at times where audience members have gotten up pissed and, you know, but I mean, I do a lot of characters too. And I think, you know, one of my first, you know, as a kid, I was really good at the Southern accent because growing up in Texas and hearing all the time. So I'd always impersonate. I enjoy your Southern character. Oh, well, thank you. Thanks. Like, I mean, it just, thank you. It's an instant laugh in the North, right? Oh yeah. It's like,
Like that was, you know, it just... So, I mean, yeah, I do care. I just wanted to just be myself and just like the type of shit that I would say to make my friends laugh or whatever. This is what works. And, you know, having a friend like, you know, like, like, like Neil and Mike were both comedians and cracking them up. Like I would, I would do characters just hanging out with them and they would start laughing. I'd go, shit, I better do it on stage. You know, like that's how it went, you know, or anything, you know, that's, that was, I guess, where I left. Yeah. And you don't, you don't have an accent yourself. Right. Even though you're from Dallas. I guess in the big cities, sometimes they don't have an accent. They don't really, yeah. I mean, it's Dallas, in Dallas proper, it's, it's kind of rare, you know, to have someone with like a thick, thick accent. I mean, sure there are, you
characters and like what makes you laugh or you dig it into your life all the above or all the above all the above like i mean you know my my father uh it wasn't my biological dad but my mom's boyfriend like he would always tell me like he would when i first started doing comedy i was happy he's like oh i wonder if i could make a living he goes yeah maybe you could one day but definitely don't quit your day, you know, not because you're not good, but he goes, I think, he goes, what I, he said, what I always thought was funny about comedians was just the way they would observe how messed up people are. And then it's just like, you're going to see that every day working a day job. And I'm like, yeah, you're right. You know, and I was like, that's true. And so that's why I liked working retail because you get to see just the most absurd, like it's like waiting tables. You just get to see people at their absolute worst and it's funny. And it's like, and then you just, you know, it's great. Like, I mean, so I want to thank every piece of shit asshole customer, whoever came in, because I'm like, yeah, you, it just, whatever, it made me.
you know see things like that and find that find the funny and why they're being such a brick you know like that's uh but yeah like that's i mean that's definitely a lot of it is from life experience of course a lot of it you know just drawn from that kind of stuff like it's uh i think what i what i also do is a lot of what what helps me write jokes and it's put off a lot of people like you know dated and stuff is like is like let's say like i started okay if i'm If I'm going to go to a mall with my girlfriend and we park and like a bunch of 20-something dudes all get out of a car and they're all topless, right? And, you know, I'll just be like, oh, you know, don't put your shirts on, please. We all want to see this, you fucking dickheads. And they're like, why are you so angry? I'm like, oh, no, I'm not really. Like, I'm just, you know, I just, what I like to do is like just verbally and not even, I'm not even going to start a fight. I'm not even yelling it at them, right? I'm just trying to make the person next to me laugh or what I'm trying to do. In a way that's audible to the guys. No, no. Oh, it's in my car. I'm not even like, hey, what's up? I was wondering why you're catcalling them. Yeah, like it was like, yeah, I'd always make
And I had to explain to my girlfriend, like, I'm not trying to start shit. Or even, like, they can't even hear me. I was like, what I'm trying to do is... I like to vocalize what annoys me about life. You know, what, what the things that you see that just anger, because to me is what I always learned early on, there's nothing funnier than somebody just off, just pissed off. And then, so it's like, well, there's gotta be something funny and anger, you know, clearly. So I like, I just like making fun of things that I think are annoying and stupid and it just kind of helps, you know, and then, you know, I don't know. Yeah, no, that does seem to be the place where it seems like you go a lot and you have a great voice to it too. That sort of gravelly, angry guy voice. Perfectly tailored to that. But I'm wondering if your act has changed over the years. Oh, sure. Like in the beginning, what sort of stuff were you doing mostly? I mean, I was,
It was so bad. I mean, it was just, I'm up there in person. Everybody thinks their stuff was bad in the beginning, but you were doing okay. It was, I mean, it was, you know, it was, here's how it was. It was, of course it was awful. Like if I had to do it today, I'd jump off a cliff. If somebody said, hey, you can only do the first, you know, 30 minutes you've ever written, I'm like, okay, nevermind. But like, I would, you know, impersonate pro wrestlers, just stupid, you know, just dumb. But it was, but I would always try to make it absurd. It wasn't just like, you know, and I didn't try to do like cheesy shit. Like I'm sure a lot of it was, but you know, I mean.
Yeah, I just, man, my early stuff, it was very high energy because I was, you know, 18 years old. You know, I was like, what was funny. And incredibly ambitious, it sounds like. You just got nothing but energy. Right. I was just jumping up and down and just, you know, like, I mean, everything was very animated. You know, it was very like, you know, it was just, but I mean, I still had that like.
let me try to see what I can get away with. You know, that was my, it wasn't like, I'm just going to be silly and be G rated. It was like, I'm going to be silly, but I'm also going to see how far I can take, you know, these jokes or this premise, or what if I make it really dark here? What's going to happen? Like, I was always intrigued by that. I love that. Yeah. And that's something that's, I think you're really good at with an audience too, is like taking them a little bit further than they, maybe they want to go. Right. And being the guy who's sort of like, come on, everybody, I'm just joking. It's like, what's the matter? Getting them to come along with you, even if you're going to a place that most of them would never go. Like, okay. I mean,
How do I, the joke I'm doing right now, and I won't tell the whole, I'm not going to, but like the point of the part of the joke is like, okay, farting in an elevator before people walk in is already funny, right? Like you don't need a comedian to explain to you. Farts are automatic. Right. It's like, that's why it's like so many, you know, a lot of comics will, you know, good for them, whatever. But some people just, it's like, okay, but you didn't add anything to this. Like you just explained something that's already funny. Like you brought nothing. I would rather.
find out what's funny about a baby dying on christmas eve you know what i mean like let me do let's see what's funny about that like let me try to find out you know like that's kind of you know like that's more of like okay my mom's friends died of eggs because they were gay when she was growing up let me think of what's funny about that you know like that's that let me that's what to me is what i enjoy about comedy it's not like you know it's you know it's you know it's much more of a challenge to try to get something really difficult or right Right. Something that the audience may immediately bristle at and say, well, we can't like that. Wait a minute. No, stop it. In a way, is that sort of like creating the straight man for comedy? Because if you get people to a place where they don't feel allowed to laugh, if they do it, the laugh is so much more powerful. It's like laughing in church or a funeral. Is that kind of what you're going to do? Absolutely. Okay. And this is, you said it best with the funeral thing. My sense of humor begins and ends with my family that it started with my mom and her boyfriend, my dad. They were just like, I mean, when I was like, I started kindergarten very young. I was like four. Everyone else was five. I was like four or whatever. But when I was in kindergarten, it was like.
I had maybe been in like a school a month and I got a really bad fever flu thing. Right. And it was, I remember being so scared. I thought I was going to die. I've never been that sick. You know, I was so sick and I didn't, I hated it. And my dad brought over, he knew I wasn't going to go to school the next day. So he comes home from work and he rents the Monty Python and the Holy Grail. And I didn't get half the jokes. Four years old. But I like them pretending to be on horses and all this shit. I was just like, this is the greatest thing. The bunny killing everybody. Like, this is a funny thing. And so like, I just always like, and then I would impersonate SNL characters for my mom the next morning. I would do like the Billy Crystal. Like you look Marvel. I would do all that shit. Like I loved it. Like he would like my mom, my dad would let me watch this. But my aunt, I
forget when i was a little kid we had a death in the family and i was like again like four or five years old and we're at this funeral i don't even know remember knowing the great aunt who passed away i was like whatever but i was just like man this is like church this is fucking boring it's just church with a dead body so it's kind of creepy and then we're at the wake or whatever and then so the priest starts to talk and it takes him like he just got caught where you know, he was trying to say dearly, he was trying to say dearly beloved. And he was like, you know, and my aunt is just rolling and I'm like, this is, oh, okay. And then so like, and I just love the idea of, wait a minute, like we're not supposed to be laughing right now. But the two of us were just crying laughing. I'm like, oh, this is cool. Like, this is cool. Like, this is way better than laughing when you're supposed to. It was laughing when you're not supposed to. Like, I really got, I just love that. Like that was. Yeah. Creating that context with an audience where they're not supposed to laugh. Right. It's, oh man, it feels fun too. It's like, like, and like you said, it's like, again, like when you do the obvious shit and there's, again, I'm not knocking.
comedians you do right you'll get good laughs they'll do well you'll do fine but when you connect like that they're gonna remember you forever it's like oh that's special yeah yeah it's it's that one like it's like and that's where i'm at right now because again obviously i'm not famous i'm trying to find you know that and i can already tell like the people who will come and see me next time you know because they're the ones who like if i do a joke about a baby dying on christmas eve they're the ones belly laughing i'm like okay all right that that one's coming back all right like you know like i bet that she'll come back and see me you know so you're based in la right now yeah and when you say come back you mean like people are gonna come to your show oh yeah like next time i'm in sacramento like you know if you're touring yeah yeah it's like okay i'm hopefully building a fan base like you know like these people ones who are belly laughing at this shit. Hopefully they're going to be the ones who will pick up my car and buy my CD and, you know, go like me on Facebook and all that kind of stuff. Like that's kind of like, okay, I think I got a fan. Like, you know, let me ask you a little more about your strategy. You started in Dallas and started touring around that area, maybe driving, uh, 20 hours. Um, and then you went to New York and then LA and now you still tour a fair amount. Do you mostly tour on the West coast and that area? Do you go wherever? Yeah, wherever. I mean, you know, I've, I've done, um,
Pretty much, you know, almost every state, you know, just wherever. I mean, I just luckily just got an agent who's really cool. And I just a couple of weeks ago I was in Minnesota, you know, and now here. And, you know, I think I forgot where I'm going to be next. I think it's going to be. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't. It's going to be everywhere. Yeah. You did Conan recently. Yeah. Yeah. Is that your your first TV show? Well, I was on Last Comic Standing, made it to the semifinals the year that Philly Best Sparza won. It was like, I forgot before they took their little break. You know, they had that break and they came back.
last year, but it was awesome. It was fun. But yeah, Conan was like the first, I mean, you know, look, last comic standing was great. Like I, a lot of people got me a little bit and you know, it's, it was, you know, my friend, Mike, he talked me into it, you know, Mikey D and he, of course he made the finals and, and he just said, he goes, dude, what's the worst? A lot of comics are snobby about it. And he goes, look, what's the worst that's going to happen? You can NBC a couple of nights, big fucking deal. Let's just go do it. Let's do it. The worst that could happen is you could be famous. Right. Yeah. It was a fun experience, but like, but again, like, you know, I do understand how the cheesy element of a reality TV show and how they're not actually looking for the best comedian in America, blah, blah, blah. So Conan was definitely a much better
club they basically say oh this guy was a conan conan guy right yeah that's what they're saying and it was amazing and conan was so much fun like that was that was definitely a highlight of my career was getting to you know do that so you have an agent who sends you around and you do okay and you make a living doing step knock on wood yeah just i mean it's a tight one i mean there's some months i'm like oh shit how long has it been like that for you oh my whole life yeah it's i mean so you well you must have quit the bookstore at some point you're not going back to the bookstore yeah i quit the bookstore yeah and now i'm like man i really should be nice to pick a couple of shit a couple of months like man i wouldn't mind going back in and you know like just helping out in the back room or something you know but like yeah like it's um no i mean it's uh yeah i quit the bookstore um they were nice nice enough to let me transfer and move to LA to a store in LA. And that was great. And then, but now, yeah, I mean, it just, it got to the point now where the work has been consistent enough to work. And then it's hard now too, because I'm at that, I'm in that weird limbo of like, I'm not famous enough to be out every week, but I'm at the point where any day my agent or manager could call me and go, hey, you need to be here next week. And I couldn't tell a day job that like, oh, hey guys, sorry, I gotta be there. Nobody's that flexible. Yeah, exactly. So, so it seems like you've decided to leverage what you do have and try to make more money as a standup comic by doing an album. Is there any other things you've tried and are there other things to do?
Yeah, I mean, there's, you know, it's funny, but I'm happy with the lay. I got signed to Stand Up Records, and Dan, who owns it, is a real good dude, and I was very happy, you know, but it's such a do-it-yourself world now. It's great where, I mean, a comic can record their own album and put it out and maybe make a chunk of change, and it's nice. Was it better to go with a label now? I thought it was just because I'm unknown.
You know, like, and Dan, at least being with stand-up records, like, they can send it to people to review it, you know? Right. If I just blindly, like, hey, okay, whatever. But, you know. It's a little bit of a stamp of legitimacy to have some kind of label behind you. Yeah, absolutely. Nothing feels better than having someone else make a phone call for you. It's like, oh, all right, cool. Like, that's, you know. That's a certain step. Yeah, you're right. It just feels nice, you know? But, I mean, yeah, like, knock on wood, I have a one-hour special coming out in the fall that Gabriel Iglesias produced. It was cool. He just, we became friends. He met me through, you know, Cristela Alonso, the other girl, she had an ABC show. I mean, she's great. And she hooked me up with Fluff.
and it was awesome and he really dug me and it was, yeah, it was great. Like he just, you know, and I became really good friends with all the guys that tour with him, you know, like Alfred and Martine and all those guys are great dudes and it was, you know, it was just Rick and it was just fun. It was just really fun and he produced my hour special and it was crazy. It was like very like, oh wow, this is really happening. We flipped it up to New York and we filmed it and it'll be a DVD available on. I think it's actually going to be on the network. I can't say anything yet but I'm pretty sure it's already been sold and so we're going to find, I'll be able to talk about it soon but yeah. Is it a different material than it was on the album presumably?
Almost, mostly. What happened was when David approached me about doing it, he goes, look, man, he goes, some of my favorite jokes I want you to do. And I was like, well, they're already on my CD. Is that okay? He goes, just do it. And then so like, it's about, I'm going to say 90% brand different than this. There's only like maybe three or four jokes that I kept from this. It's like, man, this guy's producing it. Yeah, sure. Whatever you want, buddy. You know, like, yeah, he's going to request. Again, that was so flattering having a comedian at Gabriel's level to have requests. Like, hey, I really like that joke here. It's like, man, that's really like, oh man, I'm pretty flattered. It was cool. That's great. Now you've opted to.
Identify as Latino in your act and it's part of I don't know if it's part of your persona, so but you go there a lot for jokes sometimes Yeah, you know and part of the joke is you don't look Latino. Nobody believes me Nobody believes you was that conscious choice or had you always just sort of gone there because it's you and you're just Yeah, just honest I mean like any joke I've done about being Latino is generally rooted in something that happened to me, you know, and so it's like yeah, I mean I'm working on a new hour right now, and I'm trying to remember. I don't even think I have one joke where I mention being – it's interesting. I guess I got that out of my system. It's weird. But maybe I'll revisit it again later. But I don't think I have one joke where I mention – it's interesting. I think I have one maybe in my new hour. And it's funny. I always have to –
When I say a joke about being Mexican, I have to tell the crowd, like, I know I look Jewish. You know, like, you know, but trust me, you know, like, that's almost become, like, my go-to line is, like, look, I know I look Jewish, but I am Mexican. Trust me. Well, it's that line that every comedian has to have now where they sort of, I look like a cross between. Oh, right. Yeah. It's like they're setting up their personas of audience knows where they're at or whatever. It works for you and it's honest. And I'm wondering if, like, that, like, would there be even any camaraderie at all with you and other Latino comics if you hadn't come out since you don't look like, you don't look Mexican? You know, that's a great, I mean, I never got anything weird from it. It was interesting. Like, when I.
um you know one of the first things i ever did was a latino laugh festival in the year 2000 when i was like still almost like just four or five years and i just finally started and i know when even are you sure you're mexican it was just like oh yeah sure man come on like it just nobody's checking yeah yeah it was it was interesting like i know i've never had luckily i've never i mean i'm sure there's some assholes out there but you know all the latino comics i've met and worked with they've never even batted an eye like i've never even got oh come on you're not mexican they're just like oh cool you know like it's like yeah it's interesting that's a good question it's an interesting question yeah i've never thought about that but yeah it's never it's never really uh thankfully i guess it's never been anything that got brought up yeah but it works out well it seems like you don't see that a lot like you don't necessarily see Well, maybe you do a little bit like black comics helping each other out. There's some camaraderie. Sure, sure. With white comics, not really, because they're not a minority. They're not a minority, yeah. But, you know, the fat comics don't really do that. Right. The race thing, for whatever reason, is a cultural bond. It just helps. It really, I mean, I don't know how to explain it. But yeah, I mean, because I'm not, you know, yeah, there's just something about...
Like, oh, this guy has had probably a way more similar upbringing that I, you know, like it's just something like, yeah, like there's something, you know, I mean, yeah, it's definitely like it's hard. Like, and I've even, it was funny about when I would do shows in certain small towns where they might have not been the most open-minded, like they would already, I would get called, you know, kike and stuff like that. And I was just like, I mean, from that, like, hey, shut up, you fucking kike, hey, shut up, you Jew. And I'd be like, well, I'm actually Mexican. I'm going to give you an extra reason to hate me. Like, I would just turn into that and then they would start throwing Mexican slurs and be like, okay. Like it just, and so, I mean, yeah, when you.
Yeah, there is like kind of a, you know, just an unspoken camaraderie of like, oh, we've probably been to the same shit, haven't we? Right, right. You should try that with some Jewish comedians. Yeah. So let's go back to that upbringing and those struggles, because it seems like what you were saying a moment ago about being four and seeing Monty Python. Yeah. Was that kind of your first exposure to comedy? Or it seems like you were already a pretty comedy focused guy, even at that age. I loved it. I don't know. I can't even begin to explain what my first. That was the first one that stuck out big time. And, you know.
I just always loved it. I've always loved making people laugh. It's just been a fun, I just get a kick out of it. And yeah, my mom and dad, they would stay up late, let me watch Saturday Night Live. I started in the early 80s and then, of course, I loved all that.
when I was really old enough to start getting, getting more of the jokes was like Dana Carvey era, that kind of, I was just like, oh, the church. Yeah, the show kind of blew up with that. Yeah, I was like, man, I was just all in. But no, I mean, my family was always very, I just, they were very funny. They're just funny. Like, my family was just very funny. They're just a family of ball busters. You know, like it's, you know, I remember when I was a little kid, one of my uncles was teaching me how to ride a bike and we both wiped out by these train tracks outside my grandmother's house and like, it was just a cloud of smoke. I get up.
crying just blood everywhere and I look up and my two aunts are just rolling laughing like it was the funniest thing I've ever seen so I'm just like okay I guess you know I just I just yeah I don't know it's always been just a very you know I just funny I don't know family just very funny and so I never really took that many things that seriously did brothers and sisters no no I just only kid only kid yeah so were you um you were just sort of acting like the other people in your family you weren't feeling a hole or necessarily no it was just yeah I was like oh this is fun like okay this is life is fun yeah it's kind of funny even tragic shit that's kind of funny you know like that's just what it kind of became and it was uh And it just, you know, like, you know, my English teacher in high school, who's still one of my dearest friends is a, is a Dr. Blake hobby. He told me, he said, your biggest gift and your biggest curse is that you can make something, you can make anything funny. And he goes, you're gonna have a hard time with that. And it's also going to benefit you, but you know, you just are able to make it, you know, you find funny in anything. And it's like, and it does suck. Cause sometimes you blurt it out and you're like, Oh, oops, maybe. Okay. Nevermind. Sorry. Sometimes people don't want to laugh. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it's a, yeah, I guess it just, yeah, it's true. I guess it really wasn't any kind of way to fill. It was just kind of natural. Like, Oh, it's everybody around me. It's just kind of naturally funny people. My mom was very dry and goofy and
no sense but it's yeah it's yeah dry and silly like Leslie Nielsen maybe something like that like Leslie Nielsen yeah like it just yes very much like it's that's why I probably think that Naked Gun is probably still my favorite but that's something my dad when I was a little kid he would show me the old police squad shows that you know and I was and I was like man this is the funniest shit ever like how did this thing only last four episodes or whatever right I was like this is the best show I've ever seen like I was I just grew up on that I just was raised around you know funny shit just raised around comedy it was it was it was you know then you know my dad just knew it I guess and so when I was like five or six he took me to that comedy club in Dallas and I'm a little bit old and I was like eight or nine and you know he left quickly because he's like well generally the jokes get a little dirtier as the show goes on still here but he still wanted me to see it and I was like man I thought this was so cool it was fun so what was his sense of humor like and he was your mom's boyfriend but you knew him as a dad from oh yeah yeah he was his he was very well he was also kind of like he liked it all like he found I mean Richard Pryor was his favorite, you know, but he, and I guess like Pryor, you know, I guess Richard Pryor is a great example of someone who was extremely irreverent, extremely smart, but also could be goofy. You know, Pryor could do a visual sight gag or do a, you know, he would, you know, he'd make a funny face, but at the same time, he would say the most irreverent thing about race a minute later or the most brilliant, you know, like that was kind of like what my dad said. It was his sense of humor is kind of all over the map. He kind of enjoyed anything that was either, you know, he liked smart stuff. He liked dumb shit. It was, you know, he had three stooges, Bob Newhart. It didn't matter, you know, like it was. And he seems to be the guy who was exposing you to some of this stuff. A lot of it. Yeah, he would, he definitely would, you know, it was, it was fun.
For someone my age, it was like, oh, this guy is... That was my first concert was the Monkees reunion. Weird Al opened, and I was like, I was in heaven. I was like, let's do the Monkees and Weird Al. It was great. I think in 87, 86, I think. So cool. And what was your dad's sense of humor like? Just his own... Because he was funny, too. He was very funny. I remember he would do... If I would get scolded by my mother, she would get mad. Like, I told you to put these toys up. He would start clapping and laughing. He would just start... It was just funny. Because my mom, she would never fly up to handle it. Every time I would get in trouble, he would kind of do... It would just suddenly... We were the same age. He'd be like...
you got busted like he would do that kind of shit you know interesting i wonder if he could do that because he wasn't like the real dad so yeah i don't know i'm more of your best buddy here man like yeah shit i don't know what to tell you dude that's amazing so it's almost like an automatic big brother who's like super experienced as opposed to two or three years older brother yeah absolutely that's what it was it was like it was it was great like that and it was it was it was interesting yeah yeah so an amazing mentor early yes and you probably built a lot of skill just during those years growing up class clown i'm assuming oh god absolutely it just no question no question absolutely did you ever aspire to do any other comedy besides stand-up like when you were uh Growing up in high school, did you ever do any, like, writing or sketches? No, we do sketches. You know, in high school, we'd DM me my friend Ben. Did you videotape them? Yeah, yeah. My friend's Ben, Jeff, Albert. We were all my buddies. We'd all get together. You know, just Vince. We'd sit there and just, you know, we all just make up sketches. I'd say, how about we do this? And, you know, my friend Ben and I would just go to, like...
thrift stores and find the goofiest outfits buy them and like all right let's just be you know we put them on and make up a skit and just film it and nobody would ever see it you know we would just show it to ourselves and we'd die laughing and you know we would do that all the time but like and i yeah it was fun and but i there was something about like of course you know being on saturday live would have been amazing all that kind of stuff but there was something about stand-up that i just really gravitated towards it was just like there's just something so pure about this when it's right because it's like there's no other it is like writing there's no other you have no other There's no one else to play off of. I love that purity. One of the coolest things my dad did when I first told him I wanted to be a stand-up comedian, I guess as...
out of luck. Um, I'd been doing it maybe, you know, a couple of months and, uh, he took me to go see a production of Lenny that was in Dallas. And that was really cool. Just like watching the Lenny Bruce thing. I didn't know who Lenny Bruce was back then, but I was like, we should probably watch this guy. Who was playing him in that tour? I don't remember. He was just a local actor. Yeah. And he was, that was great. It was a great, like, it was awesome. And it was like, man, it was, and then he's like, yeah, they made a movie too. And he, you know, I was like, oh wow. So, you know, I just started watching that. That was a dozen off. It was, it was awesome. It was very, very cool. So were there any comedians that either he introduced you to or you discovered who really lit a fire into you for one reason or other? Yeah. I mean, uh, I
If I had to pick, oh man, I would have to say, and it was all kind of through just everything, through him, through just what I, my aunt was also a giant. This is my big, my aunt was also a big comedy fan, but she would like, I remember she took me to go see Beverly Hills Cop when I came out in the theater and I was in first grade and I got in trouble for saying motherfucker like eight times the next day. But I was like, what are you, why am I in trouble? Like, it's funny. And so I would, if I had to pick.
It would be Weird Al, Dana Carvey, and Eddie Murphy. I know those are, it doesn't make sense, but those are, if I had to pick three of my biggest heroes. They were formative, it sounds like. Yeah, yeah. You discovered them early. Right, right. And so, yeah, Weird Al, Dana Carvey, and then Eddie Murphy were, I mean, just mega influences. And that was like, I remember I watched Delirious when I was a little kid, and I was like, this is like extra level amazing. And so that was a big one. My dad got me into Richard Pryor.
You know, and he would just encourage me to lie. When I was a little kid, I would watch like Evening at the Improv and all those kind of shows. It's all stand-up showcase shows. And I would just like, I just loved it all. Like the, you know, the goofy comics I love, the heady ones I love. And then what was awesome was one of my favorite shows I'll never forget was he took me when I was a kid. They had a tour, a Saturday Night Live tour. And it was Kevin Nealon, Dana Carvey, and Dennis Miller. And it was like, oh man. And of course, I was most excited to see Dana Carvey, right? And I was like, I remember thinking like, well, Dana Carvey is all the best characters. Like, this is amazing. And I was like, and I was almost disappointed when he was done. I'm like, well, man, like that sucks. And then Dennis Miller came out.
That dude, like, I didn't get half the jokes, but you could just tell he was on just another level of, as far as just sharp and funny and just, it was, I mean, he had, he just destroyed. It was crazy. And just personality and confidence. That was what it was. He was just like, I mean, it was, oh, it was incredible. And Kevin Nealon was so funny. And then it was actually a weird, I don't know, I guess it was just a...
odd turn that they weren't doing it the whole tour, but apparently John Lovitz was just in Dallas. And so he came up and did 10 minutes as that Tommy Flanagan, the pathological liar. It was fun. It was like, man, it was just like such a cool show. But yeah, like that was, that was definitely a big, like seeing those guys was like really like, Oh, this is awesome. Like, this is really cool. It was fun.
Amazing. So you're sort of like the Roy Hobbs of comedy. Maybe that's an obscure Dennis Miller-like reference. But just like you come from comedy, you always wanted to do comedy, you studied comedy. It's like, what else are you going to do? What else am I going to do, man? I just hope some chick doesn't fuck me over. And you know, I have a mic that was made out of lightning. Lightning hit a tree and I got a microphone. That's what you need. There's a parody movie in there somewhere. No, I really feel like it's just, yeah, it's just like, what the hell else am I going to do? Like I'm at that point, you know, I'm just like, anything else I do would be for fun. Like it would be, it's all fun to me, but like.
If things took off and I get booked in a movie or a TV show, I'd be like, oh, this is incredible, but I'm still doing comedy. Once this wraps, I'm going straight to whatever comedy club is in this. It's so interesting that you call it comedy. You know, because if you did a comedy movie, that's comedy. That's comedy, right? The purest comedy. You were just a moth to the flame for the pure stand-up comedy. Absolutely, absolutely. Now, how often do you develop new material? Are you just constantly developing? I'm so bummed out that my notebook has one page left and I didn't bring a spare one. So I'm walking around today like that. Yeah, I believe they sell notebooks. Yeah, I could probably find them. But I'm such a, like, nope, that has a stupid design on it. Nope, don't want that one. Now that notebook looks stupid. So I just, I'm like such picky, like, no, fuck it. I'm just gonna wait till I get home. You have just the place where you go. Yeah, I know where to go. I'll get my notebook. That's great. So you're always writing. You're always working on new stuff. Always, always, always. Do you try new stuff on the road
you know it's not going to bomb. You can make it funny enough to start working. Right. And I tell you this too, and I don't know if this is good advice. I always think, everyone says never do new material, never open with, I always open with new material because to me, if I think of a joke and I want to, I'm so excited to tell that joke that I purposely open with it because I'm kind of subconsciously giving my brain, okay, buddy, sink or swim, this is it. Like, you kind of have to make it funny, you know? And so I always open with new shit. That's an interesting philosophy too because it...
It's a new joke to you. You're excited about it. Right. You're going to deliver it with more power. Yeah. If you waited. If I kind of softened it up. Yeah. I don't want to just, you know, put it in the middle where it's like, well, no, you know, you want to. Yeah, definitely. Like, I mean, this week I have the only reason I haven't done that. I haven't really done anything new this week. I mean, it's all new because, you know, nobody knows people see me. But, you know, like it's like I'm working on a new hour, so I can already have what I want. You know, I'm just kind of going through that now and just making sure. But if I do come up with a joke today, I'll try it tonight. I'll just throw it out there because, yeah.
Yeah, I'm always constantly just, you know, like, and I think that's a big key, man. Like, it's just writing. Just always wake up, even if it's not funny. I mean, a lot of 90, well, not that, but like, I'm going to say 60% of my notebook is shit. It's just like, this is so stupid. That's a pretty high percentage. Yeah, it's like 40% is good. That's high. Really? Because I think it's like 40%, because I only 40% always try and I'll keep trying that, you know, but most of my notebook is shit. I'm just like, this is stupid, stupid. You got to get it out there. And then eventually, oh, wait, oh, it's just funny. You know, like that's how, you know, totally. Yeah. So a lot of that stuff that you're trying from the notebook, when you write in the notebook, is it like you get a one line?
a concept and that's it or do you all of a sudden you have oh there's a beat i can escalate that two or three more do i do you have all those or do you uh wing that on stage or how does it work okay it's i mean if you look at my notebook there's there'll be two pages that are it's one entire joke and i've fleshed out already and then the next job will literally say jizz interface and i have no idea what i even meant by that and i'm like what does that even mean and i'm like okay well you know and then like i must have thought that you know and then like and then even then like i always leave room for interpretation like i always it's like uh Yeah, I always just am always ready at any moment to, I never sell, I never commit 100% to what I've written down. You know, like let's say a two page joke, right? Have all the beats. If I'm doing it live, you never know what can happen. And then all of a sudden, nine times out of 10, I found out that when I'm telling a joke, all of a sudden I'm like, oh shit, while I'm telling it, no, I go here with it. Like it just, you always have to just say it and spit it out in front of a crowd because it just, for me at least, you know, that's always helps. Like I, you know, I'll definitely write everything down, but you know, I'm always open to, well, that didn't really work. Let me try that. You know, like I'd always, it's always tweaking. And what drives me crazy.
is shit that's already been out like on my special and on my cd is i'll still tinker and i'm like i gotta stop that's already out there like enough you know like it's i'll do that like well maybe i should do this like but yeah you take it with something new on stage do you ever forget what you did on stage and kill yourself later oh i had the perfect angle on this i just called my girlfriend today and i'm like hon i i i sent a tag last night to a joke and i was like I told her, do you know where this might have fit? Because I don't remember. Like I said, I remember it got a big laugh. And I'm like, shit. I mean, that's why, like, it's such a pain in the ass. But I really think every comic should just travel with a camera and just record themselves every show. I mean, I know it's like, you know, it's just little things like that. And then, of course, in my head, I get so lazy. I'm like, I'm not going to lug. I'm like, lug? What am I? It's the size of a cell phone in my camcorder. You know what I mean? You know, have somebody in the audience do it. Yeah. Or you just record it. Right. It's like, I just get so lazy. But yeah, I just, you know, yeah. I'm not like I'm fucking Ansel Adams, like carrying this thing on the mountain. It's like, no, just bring its camcorder
clearly valuable yeah it's tough to do every time though i totally yeah yeah so let me ask you about the persona that you the comic persona that you have on stage is that very clear to you in your mind what that is and how did you arrive at it if it is um i just think i've always done a minor exaggeration of myself that's just how i look at it like it's just i'm me but just a little bit you know to 11 you know like that's it like if i'm at 10 then i'll just 11 like you know whatever right if i'm a five there's a lot of comics like that like george carlin's a great example yeah you don't think of him as having a definite persona or whatever right he's really just him amped up yeah that's all i am i'm just i'm myself just a little amped up that's how i that's always how i look at my on stage or just always be like because you are on a stage or something about standing on a stage and kind of okay you're it brings something else out of you yeah yeah and you need to be a little bigger than life right it's up to work for people yeah so you're not famous yet you've said that a couple of times it's obviously helpful for a standup comic to be famous. Yes. Are you prepared for that? Because it's a lot of work and there's a lot of baggage to being famous. That's no fun. And I'm curious to know what you've thought about that. You know, it was fun. I was talking to my friend, Nick is a very, very funny comic and Nick Cobb. And we were just talking about that the other day. He was like, we were saying how like there's certain guys that just, you know, have it made where in a sense where they make a great living doing standup, but they could go walk down the street and nobody fucked, you know.
But at the same time, it's like that ego, just like, nah, but I want to be the guy that gets bothered when I go to a mall. You know, I know it'll probably get annoying, but, you know, I kind of, yeah, I wouldn't mind. It'd be kind of fun, you know, like. To be recognized. Yeah, you know, that would be great. I'm not going to be mobbed, but recognized once in a while. Right, like, oh, hey, yeah, somebody's like, oh, dude, that was good. Like, that's cool. It's a fun. I mean, it happened once already when I was in San Antonio. Great. Somebody saw me, like, you were good. And I was like, yeah, you know, like, I wouldn't even have the club. I was just walking around. It was cool. Like, that was, you know, like.
Yeah. I mean, it's, I mean, yeah, you want that for sure. I mean, it just, the paycheck doesn't hurt, you know, like, and so it's like, well, that helps. And I, you know, I don't pay raise. Yeah. I don't mind, you know, that'd be nice. And there's, yeah, there's a lot of, you know, shitty things that go with it. I, you know, I know every, a lot of comics have talked about this, but I mean, a legitimate fear is like, man, I'm going to get, I love my girlfriend, but if I get mega famous, I'm going to get like eight STDs. I don't know how I'm just going to be like, Oh, Hey, hot chick who wants to fuck me for no reason. No, I gotta go. Like there's, I don't know how I'm going to, I'm going to find a way to just block that out and be like, you know, like,
Like, yeah, like we're gonna have to make payments to a little child that's mine, you know? Or you just make a promise to your girlfriend, I'll see you for now. Yeah, yeah. So when I get famous, I'm gonna have to be single. I don't know, yeah. But what's your strategy then for achieving that? It sounds like it's just nose to the grindstone. It's hard work. I don't know what else to do. Like, you know, like, I mean, some people, yeah, they find that quick and you see something like this guy's like 14 years old and they're already getting it. I'm like, hey, good for them. But I just, you know, I, yeah, for me, it's just good. You know, attack, attack, attack, attack. And just always try to be funny. And, you know, like, I don't, I don't know if like.
You know, I just, I don't want to be that person. It's like, oh, I just got to make that one viral video or I just have to make that one tweet. It's like, I mean, yeah, okay. But to me, like, you know, if you hit from that, like, let's say I make a video where I'm like some, you know, hey, I'll have to do some redneck guy. And I was like, hey, I don't want to have to be the redneck guy when I'm on stage. You know, like, oh, we do do the fucking redneck. Like, you know, it's like that Andy Kaufman show where he was like, he was sick of being a lot guy. You know, it's like, you don't want to, you know. Yeah, no, that's smart thinking. It's like, I don't, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's probably gonna take a lot longer for me, you know, but that's fine because once
character put on a stupid outfit like any of that shit you know like you know let me just let me just do what i want you know yeah you won't have the one lame thing that you did that you thought was kind of like a lame joke but everybody loves and that's gonna be the guy like you're earnest right or right you know one of those people what about interacting with the entertainment business you say you've got an agent now or is a manager an agent i have both luckily okay great how has that been sort of navigating that world of the professional entertainment people have you talked to like tv development people or anything like that not yet it's um I don't know what I'm going to say. I know I can talk to anybody. I feel, you know, and so I'm not worried about that, but it's, it is an interesting new kind of thing. It's like, well, now you, you know, you also have to kind of learn to maybe not be so, you know, if you're abrasive, you got to maybe turn me back in a meeting or all these kinds of things. It's like, you know, like, and luckily, you know, my agent, my manager are great. And it's like, you know, they'll have them to help me, you know? But I think, you know, knock on wood, when it comes to those kinds of things about, you know, having pitch meetings, I think my manager wants to, he's like, let's, let's let the special come out in the fall. And then, you know, let's, let's really hit this. I'm like, okay. So it's giving me a little bit of time
man if you blow a meeting no matter how you know that's that's a weird thing and you know you can really burn yeah you know you do and you have a ton of meetings right right and if you blow one or two like it happens it sounds like you're gonna be fine would you do um I mean, do you have it in your head to do like a TV show where you're the star, which is the dream of a lot of stand-up comics? Yeah, it'd be fun. I mean, anything. You know, like I just finished writing a screenplay about a year I spent with my awful ex-girlfriend. And I think it could be funny. Like I was really, I got suicidal. I think, you know what, there's something funny in this. So I just got done writing that. And a buddy of mine just wrote a pilot. And we're kind of, that would be fun. You know, like, you know, again, it's just, I don't care. I just want whatever. I want the end result to be more people come see me do comedy. Even if, you know.
if I'm in a theater, like it's crazy to be at that level that like, like a Gabriel Iglesias where like that guy, I don't even think people, like his fans know, but it's just, I don't even think it was amazing for being like a millionaire, mega famous comedian. I still don't think he gets the risk. Like people don't even realize, they don't realize how good, you know, it's just, it's amazing. It's like, man, like he is, I mean. you know, a lot of people, okay, I was in Atlanta, for instance, recently, and a bunch of comedians were talking about, you know, a famous, you know, comic, who's like, yeah, he's doing this theater, he sold out, like, 1,200 people, like, oh, that's pretty amazing, and then they're like, you know, and I looked at, that comic maybe does four of those theaters a year, whereas Gabe is doing 5,000 see venues every other night, and selling them out all, it's crazy, like, and I remember, and it's amazing going to do those shows, because I've been fortunate, he'll have you come in, you just do nine minutes, five minutes, and it's just 5,000 people, like, what are you, okay, hey, like, it's just crazy, it's, I mean, his shows, people are, encoring him like he does encores of greatest hits material and the crowd is saying the jokes with him as he's saying it 5,000 it's amazing it's just amazing like man this is this would be nice you watch I go this is pretty damn cool yeah no that's interesting but in some ways that's the thing you're talking about not wanting is the one joke or whatever the one thing that people always want and that's why Steve Martin quit because it was like you know they were just screaming it was so amazing too and it's like hey do the wild do the it's like shit man can I let me just do my other shit here you know it's it is it's kind of like it is that's a definite
I mean, it's a good problem to have. It's a good problem. But you, I mean, again, it's like, you kind of see why Dave Chappelle walked away. You kind of see why all these things happen. And it's annoying when, when the easy thing, oh, they're just crazy. It's like, no, no, no. Listen to what Chappelle has to say about this. He's not crazy. You know, he didn't, you know what I mean? It's like, no, they're not fucking crazy. Like it's, it's, it's tough. Like it is, it's tough, man. Like it's, especially again, like I told you with standup, there's no, you have no one else to work on, to work with off yourself, but you, right? So if there's anything that is more, this is my heart and soul that I'm just pouring out here. It's tough when that gets.
mangled in some way that you don't want to have it happen. Yeah, you really are risking a lot by going out there and exposing that in some way or other. You ever done voice work? Not yet. I want to. A bunch of friends are like, man, you should do video games or cartoons. I'd love to. I would love to. I just don't know where to go with that yet. It's one thing I want to talk to my managers about when I actually get back home. I'm like, hey, can we really seriously start doing this? Because that would be so much fun. Are you kidding? If I was a voice of a fucking transformer, I would lose my mind on a video game. I'd be like, that's it. I'm good. I could walk away. I was Optimus Prime for a season. I don't give a shit about anything else. Fuck you guys. I was Optimus in a video game. Well, good luck with everything, especially that. And look forward to seeing more of you in the future. It was fun. Thank you.
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