Many people think this whole barefoot idea is a fan that only started very recently and many people think that it started around 2009 with the Bookborn to run we're gonna talk to someone today who predates that by a long shot He is the original barefoot doctor and you're gonna be blown away by the things that he was doing before people even knew this was a thing So that's today's episode of the movement movement the podcast where people who want to know the truth about what it takes to have a Happy healthy strong body typically starting you know First those things at the end of your legs under your foundation on this podcast we break down the propaganda the mythology sometimes The outright lies you've been told about what it takes to run walk play to yoga cross whatever you like to do and do that Enjoyably effectively efficiently. I say enjoy wait wait. I know I did it's a trick question Look if you're not having a good time. You're not gonna keep it up So find something you like to do I am Steve's action co-founder co-CEO of zero shoes And we call this the movement movement podcast because we're creating a movement about natural movement letting your body do what it's made to do And the movement part involves you and it's really simple to spread the word We can have that works and go to our website www.jointhemovementmovement.com.
There's nothing you have to join actually That's just the URL we got there's no secret handshake There's no song you have to sing but that's what you'll find previous episodes in podcast You'll find all the ways you can find us on social media all the places you can give us a review and a thumbs up and a like and leave Hit the bell icon on YouTube and make sure you hear about future episodes subscribe to get future episodes You know the gist if you want to be part of the tribe just subscribe So I'm really looking forward to this and let's get started. Dr. James Stocksen a welcome B Tell people who the hell you want what you're doing here for your viewers on the barefoot running doctor from way back Land so there's a lot that I've done over the course of the last 37 years But I think one of the things that matches what your viewers are looking for is that I started training my athletes barefoot and like 2000 I think it's over talking about what 23 years ago. Yeah, and back up a little bit What we describe what you were doing prior to that and how you got hip to this idea to begin with Okay, I think it goes way back to the beginning when I first got out in practice.
I just got lucky 24 years old I'm a licensed doctor chiropractor at 24 and in walks Ed Cohen if anyone knows powerlifting I'm going by what we don't pause there describe and in a couple of sentences It is a miracle, but yeah, say something about who it is for people They don't know in a way that's gonna make them go here's an example when you have a powerlifting meet you have about you Two days one day for the lightweights and the heavyweights they add weight each time they go up So as you get to have your weight when they're doing their lifts there at let's say a guy who's six seven 300 pounds 12% body fat was a linebacker for some football team Competitive powerlifting squatting 800 so when you see him like a giant like that everybody's oh my god Look at how huge he is and the weight is the bars bending and everybody's going crazy Oh, and then the last lifter is Ed Cohen so the previous lift was the 800 and you got this guy who walks up That's five foot six. No, I was short in that Five four yeah, no actually give them five six, but okay Ed walks up five foot six and two twenty and these guys were the weight Classes go to 280 and 300 open you could be as big as life gives massive human beings with chests They're literally like this big Ed walks up at 220 five foot six and they racked the bar with 920 on his opening lift And so when I was a fresh graduate I went to the world championships and I'm thinking he took his shirt off And I said what is that he goes all the bruises I said yeah because I don't go to the gym with him He comes the office as what is that he goes? Oh, those are just my blood vessels exploding when I'm with this pressure on my body with the 960 Then his second lift he goes up with 965 in the squat I don't know if you've ever seen 965 pounds, but you can't even push it across the ground It's massive amount of weight and you've got six guys at three on either side that are about 300 pounds spotting the actual bar And then a guy behind him That's probably 300 pounds behind him just to make sure that if he missteps that they're gonna be able to pull the weight off of him But what scared me was that I was thinking like what if he doesn't lift it? What if he passes out?
It's possible and the bar comes down on it would literally kill him and also I'm in charge of the health of this athletes He's required at the world championships to break additional records in six months because that's what you expect from you have Empower lifting late lifting you have nationals and worlds and you have to qualify if you want the nationals go to the world But every year you have to qualify for the world championships by going to the nationals Ed Cohen is like the Michael Jordan of powerlifting. He broke 71 world records so getting back to the what we used to do is that I said after I saw that I was like oh my god What am I gonna do? How am I gonna keep this guy healthy and I can't wait for him to have an injury because he did have injuries That's why he came to me. I said I'm gonna start from the bottom regardless if he has pain or not at the foot And I'm gonna check every single you know joint of his foot his ankle joint his calf his thighs DFL his hamstrings his hips every single inch of his body and I'm gonna remove every single muscle tension from it Every single bit of inflammation from it and so that we didn't get to that point where he had an injury and it works But with the six years that we work together.
He not didn't have one single injury lifting those massive heavy weights He was grateful. He like I said, he broke 71 world records and we're still friends after now going on 37 years I talked to him every day So that's where it gave me the idea that lower back pain cracking F-Fals spasms, ileotibial band issues, counter-velatia Shinsplin's planar fasciitis all came from the foot for so for 30 something years Every single patient that walked in the office We did a video of their gate and analyzed their walk And then brought these cameras to those clunky video cameras Yeah, all African track and field championships where you're sitting in a track in Algeria, which is a rough place Muslim country But it's cool nobody bothered us, but it was a little different That's okay, but you're on the track and you're videotaping these incredible track athletes from Africa There was 30 countries there from Algeria the great runners of Ethiopia and and what was happening is that as we kept as I kept applying these techniques from the foot all the way up They would come back with the coaches and say oh what happened he broke a personal best And what did you do? What did you do? The times kept coming down drastically for these athletes right on the spot So you would have coaches that all started to watch everything you did while you were treating like you had an audience of 30 or 40 athletes of coaches just watching everything that you did with the foot and with the body to see what the secret was because the Times were just coming down at the meat like by a second or two half like a tenth of a second or two tenths of a second Which doesn't happen and when that happened I knew we had something going because of course and we don't know whether it's a stretching or What we're doing of these just really not injury prone But we knew he was doing well But when these things happened at the track and field championships just before the Olympic games in 1988 I knew that this human spring concept was really fantastic.
It was breakthroughs That's when we did it with every patient her needed discs on from Alicia like I mentioned and reset the entire spring mechanism of the body from the bottom And then trained everyone barefoot in the gym to develop a stronger foundation to allow the athlete or the patient to bounce off the ground Instead of instead of banging into the ground you get that it's okay We're gonna bounce off the ground or spring off the ground when we walk instead of banging into the ground and twisting off the ground causing all kinds of compression disorders and inflammatory accumulation of inflammation and muscle tension from the feedback loop of the inflammation and just the entire body just just squeezing down and of course when you have muscle tension Anywhere in a spring system body frame you're gonna have the first thing you're gonna have is drag on the frame So you're gonna have slower speeds You're gonna have drag on the frame which will show up in your for your competitive athletes on slower speeds during hundreds and two hundreds and also Distance running as well but the other thing you're gonna find is the fatigue starts coming in because the spring mechanism protects does four functions it protects you from the Impacts which is your shin splints in the bang and twist number two it recycles the energy because if you look at the body as inverted pendulum model which is like a is like where you reach the leg forward and land on the heel the old heel toe concept and then The momentum carries you over that planted leg which is just it doesn't even abide by the laws of physics when you try to at least Okay, walking is this inverted pendulum. Okay, okay. I get that. How do you explain running that?
It's bouncing off of Invert a pendulum and like no, that's bringing okay, so it's not an inverted pendulum It's an integrated spring system actually integrated spring mass the masses that had the teeters on the spring system balances on the spring So the second for the first thing like I mentioned is protected from the impacts second thing is that it It allows you to recycle energy through the spring system for long distance running and of course whatever you put into the spring You get back so if you're trying to run fast You want to get load in as much energy into the spring so you get more out of it So you have because like when you look at simple things just an example it be like my finger here if I try to Hit this object with my Describe it because I can't see what you're doing and If I do this can you see it now I can see what you want to describe it for people or just listen I'm like using with muscle as hard as I could do it Well, let me just try what you're doing for people so imagine Put your hand flat on a table and lifting up your second finger and just try to slap that second finger down on the table You can only apply so much force when you're doing that and then use the spring you can hear it So the flip side is put your hand flat on the table lift your second finger up with your other hand and until it stretches and then release and it just springs down So you think that that that kinetic energy or that potential energy stored in attendance to just be able to move faster and stronger than you could Volitionally on your own this is not a video podcasting right it's both okay got it Alright, the third thing is that the spring system opens up spaces for joints and that would be your discs and your knees and yours And the last thing is it opens up spaces for tunnels to allow the same passage of blood vessels and nerves your shoulder is the roof of a tunnel That allows the blood vessels and nerves to go on your arm and the ribcage is the floor So that ribcage and that ribcage and that shoulder can Start to compress with tension from using the cell phone too much that posture can start to compress the thoracic Outlet and that's a real big problem lately because of COVID and we have a computer in our hand all day long We're looking at which cranes the neck technique called thoracic outlet syndrome If you get that you're been big trouble because for me it takes me about see what you're talking about is that like for instance if you have Inflammation of an area that could be detected by nerves called no c-septor nerves They're like a chemical receptor that can measure the amount of inflammation or toxins in the tissue and that's related to the brain If you drink too much alcohol you have sensors in your stomach lining that can tell the brain that he's about to die So we need to act very quickly To save his life So that's that becomes a dominant reflex by the way where you're gonna vomit and if you try not to vomit you can't you have to it's like people Try I'm I hate vomiting everyone does but it's really not possible to stop it because it's a dominant reflex Which means that you weren't able to handle your situation The brain says hey look get out the way and let me take care of this and you're not getting in the way because I'm going to save your life And you're gonna vomit so then you have this period of time where you think that you've made it through but then it's gonna take a second reading Let everything settles down and you're like oh I'm glad that's over with when it takes the second reason We're not done yet and you've got it again That's a reflex that is protecting you just like if you have a car accident you have some inflammation or you run with bare feet with a Locked up spring that bangs into the ground and damages your creates inflammation of the muscles and tendons of your foot the joints That creates a reflex muscle action that says things aren't good there are some Inflammations we're gonna contract the muscles of the surrounding area till he figures it out and that's your stiff neck after car accident when you limp That's a stiff leg and so that's a protective reflex the problem is that is a contraction and when people get a stiff neck these therapists They don't think it's like when in doubt stretch it out if tight muscles stretch no, okay I can tell you a muscle when I do a curl watch me are you gonna push it back the other way? That wouldn't be smart. It's the same thing So why do people stretch muscles that are in a protective state with inflammation and it doesn't reduce the inflammation? So the circuit is the same.
I've never stretched a muscle that is inflamed We just do the deep tissue in the visage to move the inflammation out because it's simple It's the trigger and the tight muscle goes away. So this stretching thing is just a lack It's just a lack of knowledge. It's a lack of insight and It's embarrassing to see therapists on all these tiktok channels And I just cringe when they take the head and they pull it like this or stiff neck Oh my god, you're lifting the rib up even higher into the outlet Making it more susceptible to blockage and clot formation when the rib keeps rolling up into this tunnel where the blood vessels go And I'll sure enough in like two or three weeks of doing that they end up with a blood clot and you're no longer your patient. Okay, they're in surgery You have to understand not only muscles joints biomechanics from a high level But you also have to understand how physiology changes muscle tone And so that you can if you don't somebody can show you a video and they go like this pulling on the neck to the side And then you go, oh, that sounds logical and I'm thinking no because if you get an injury or if you have something It's lingering.
It's not going away If you don't understand it cold a doctor can tell you anything and you have to believe them I will tell you the mistakes. I'm in the trenches with the worst chronic pain cases on earth. That's all I treat Okay, now I'm only I don't do office visits I do contracts for one week at a time where we take patients that have had like 30 doctors look at them They nobody can help them and things are getting worse and they can't take it anymore And then they call me and I say okay, we go through their symptoms all their findings all their x-rays They've already had every test on the planet because nobody can figure it out because they don't touch them They scan them so we have plenty of those scans that don't tell you anything And then we say okay We give them an estimate based upon what we've seen before and the estimates are coming out around five days to get rid of some beer Chronic pain and by the way, Stephen I just sent a pitch deck to the pre-miss medical group in Bangalore and they had a innovation award A competition and there were 134 companies that submitted pitch decks and we made the finals on that pitch deck Why you know, I would think so like you're saying I can get rid of chronic severe chronic pain in five to seven days Yeah That might be an innovation. Yeah, sure it is We didn't win because john's Hopkins had an artificial arm that had already won 17 million in They won 17 million and nih grants and the girl who gave the pitch was brilliant from john's Hopkins from India to indian judges So I really thought she was good.
I would have given her the award. She was quite Well, she had her pitch down. I don't do presentations on pitch decks very often So I need to polish up my act on that But that was one that was one very good thing to see that we actually made it to the finals with that idea So I want to back up first of all, there's a whole lot to unpack and everything you said But the biggest thing I just want to reiterate is that there are a lot of ways of attending to the buy I'm gonna do it but I'm gonna do it in a different way So when I spent time with various track coaches I noticed that a lot of them were clearly just regurgitating something they had heard from somebody else that the drill My first track coach the drills that he was suggesting we do He was either suggesting things that clearly had no relationship to running or sprinting in my case Or they were things that clearly had no real impact They weren't really doing anything or the way they were doing drills called a skips and B skips and the way they were being done It looked like just a bad margin drill. It didn't maybe it's getting it's a little blood flow But it's not really doing anything specifically and I stopped hanging out with those people much to their chigrin And and so what I see a lot in the fitness world and what you were describing Is people who aren't looking at the body in a way that where they're really starting from the ground up And we'll come back to the ground up version from feet to really look at it with let's say fresh eyes They're doing something they've heard they're doing something they've been taught they're not getting in and like you said They're not touching someone and really trying to feel what's going on get some information there and the interventions They're doing are often things.
That's the way it's been done. So that's the way we're gonna do it And you found this whole other way of addressing by the way I don't want to lose this one. You did mention the virus. We'll come back to that in a sec But if people picked up that word and they didn't know what it was it's a tool that you come up with and we'll talk about that But the other thing we're gonna want to go with this the other thing is Especially for runners, but also for anyone just walking the whole idea of the spring mass model for movement is something that could not be more Obvious and I want to dive into that a little more so people understand it more deeply, but not something that people pay attention to it You give me a flashback Glenn Mills who was using bolts coach took you saying from being a 400 meter runner to being the fastest man in the world in the hundred And when asked what they did glens had I spent a year working on him to get stronger So he was a better spring so he was a tighter spring and was and like you were saying getting forced when you're putting applying force into the ground If you do it correctly, you're getting as much force back out of the ground as possible That's just new time physics and if you're using your muscles ligaments and most importantly ligaments and tendons correctly in the spring model Because your tendons are essentially springs then you're getting as much energy back as you possibly can and storing that entry for being used later Did I get anything that you want to that you want to clarify for my little synopsis?
Yeah, okay. Here's an example. There are some coaches that talk about spring stiffness and spring compliance so Spring compliance would be like a job where you're actually chogging and you're allowing the spring to low deep and slowly and but it's good I want to pause there when we talk about the spring What we're talking about is all of the structure musculature, skeletal structure starting your feet your ankles your knees your hips Your back all the really going all the way up to your head But primarily people think about it from like the navel down You can't because it's it's actually a portion spring if you do from the navel down you're not incorporating the arm swing Into the right which is obviously something very important And also the head position is because the all the sensory apparatus is in the head Here's an example So what we were talking about is that you were saying that they were giving you these drills What people don't realize is that Because they don't when I was a when I was a student most everyone wanted to know the muscles they could see Not the ones that function so you look at the cap the gastroc soleus But the ones that are the like I've examined calf muscles and calf For 37 years tens of thousands of visits. I have never in my entire career Very seldom found a muscle trigger point or whatever in a gastroc.
Okay. Yeah, I've seen a little bit here and there in the soleus But um the majority of it are in the tibialis posterior like you have this group of tendons that actually Form a slingshot the tibialis posterior the anterior the pronius longus and brevis actually form a slingshot by By attaching at the back of the calf behind the gastrocinsolius And they loop around to have strategic attachments these tendons on the actual arch of the foot on either side of the Of the metatarsal canina form joints. Okay. What you're looking at is like a it's it is actually a slingshot So when you look at um when you look at running Like the human foot as if it was the shoulders or the chest area The human foot is a three-dimensional object that actually has a posture that has to be trained in multiple directions In order for it to remain healthy.
Now if you want it to have maximum spring there are two factors number one You have to have Movement and all 33 joints of the human foot to pull off that spring action You have to be really sharp as a practitioner or even as an athletic trainer as a person that's self-managing You have to be sharp at knowing all these 32 joints and to know which joints are more apt to lock up or become stiff And how to release them. Okay. So if you're self-treating you have to know what to look for if you don't you're gonna bang into the ground and twist I gotta pause there and tell us the first thing. Okay.
Go ahead. So I have to tell a story about that So when we first met which is like 2011ish, I can't remember specific gate You had me hop up on the table and you started working on my foot and at one point you I'm gonna try and tell the story in the way that felt you manipulated a part of my foot in the longitudinal arch There's a foot where suddenly there was a snap and it had the sound of when you crack your fingers But it's like a really loud one, but I thought what the hell just happened indeed? Just read my foot because I didn't know there's a joint in there It's actually supposed to be mobile and so I freaked out internally I didn't express that and then you asked me to stand up and see how that felt and I was again literally terrified to get off the table And as soon as I put my foot on the ground it's like oh my god This feels so much better. I feel like I'm moving better like I'm actually using my foot and it was more springy and now This is one of those manipulations that I do I don't try to crack it all the time But I'm making that joint that I didn't know existed and I think most people don't was actually still flexible and mobile The human foot has 33 joints, but the majority of the weight is held on the first and second toe So where it locks and why it locks is usually when the tibial is posterior gets weak because that's like the strongest muscle That when the foot lands on the outside rolls to the inside that muscle prevents over pronation catches that that longitudinal arch and just springs it off like a slingshot Muscle isn't as strong as the the opposing side Which is the pronial muscles and if it's not strong enough to handle the amount of force being put through it Then the whole pinnomatic chain will internally rotate and create inflammation and muscle tension And then the leg becomes it has more drag on it and then you're not going to run as fast and then you get injuries from there That's probably over pronation is like the number one cause of every almost every element in the lower body I want to pause there because many people going to some running shoe store They are thrown sometimes they're put on a treadmill where somebody who has been given nominal training or training for a specific reason Looks at what they're doing says oh you pronate and then tries to put them in a shoe to try to compensate for that So there's so many people that I've met who think that they have some massive amount of pronation And what I see when I look at them So know what you're seeing is just the normal spring like mechanism of the foot and you've been sold a bill of goods from someone who was able to show you Something on a screen misinterpret it and then use that to sell you a particular product Here's another point let's say that I have a kid that walks in with his shoulders rolled forward like a 15 year old I got two choices either.
I'm going to train him in the gym to do some back exercises And well-rounded routine or I'm going to put a brace on obviously We're not going to put a brace on a kid's shoulders some you could buy them on amazon if you're if you lack intelligence You will do it that way, but the bottom line is that You don't do that with the foot either. So what we do is we certainly if you got a herni to disc We have some pain there we can't have that over pronation because it actually is causing pain So we we do want to limit the pronation just to calm the area down But for an athlete what we would do is we would do the deep tissue to release So you're going to use and we'll come back to what you're doing for an athlete You're going to use posting the foot or keeping the foot slightly mobile adding some support as a Technique for calming things down to let things heal which to the best of my understanding That's what orthotics were designed for is to let the foot basically rest while the tissue is taking some time to heal I would never put an orthotic on So let me rephrase or then clarify for me So when what you said that I was riffing on was that you're going to do something to basically let the tissue heal Let that pain settle down before you start working on the foot So what are you doing in that case? If I don't have if I've got a 70 year old with an with a week to be allis posterior that allows the The foot to pronate I could do the deep tissue around that metatarsal can you inform joint the longitudinal arch between the metatarsal can you inform joint of the of the first and second toe and maybe the third which is usually the area It's a pattern and that you can do it on a subtailor joint to keep that area from keep the movement smooth And then you are not going to be able to like do zigzag runs and circle runs and side runs on a 70 Your own in barefoot plus these diabetic let's say so we have a different way to handle that Let's just stick with mostly athletes. Let's just talk about how we would train an athlete So what we would do is we would release the spring system By working on the muscles the intrinsic muscles of the foot to relax deep tissue to release push the inflammation out Of the muscle into the interstitial fluid space which is the space between the muscle and the skin When people do deep tissue, they call these trigger points.
We need to get off of that That's the old way of thinking janetra valve trigger points There's this mysterious thing called a trigger point and we could see them and all and they're really not trigger points They're actually muscles that are in a Involuntary they have you have involuntary muscle contractions because there's inflammation there and the brain is controlling the tension on the spring Because it's getting a message that there's inflammation in the area It's it's contracting muscles of the surrounding area. So this whole thing about trigger points is is silly They these muscles muscle tension that you call trigger points At they they actually form in predictable patterns based upon how the body moves outside of the normal engineering path based on how it's designed But if it's designed to landing outside roll to the inside and at the same time low into the arch the force of the impact And it doesn't do that. That's the normal engineering Then it creates an inflammatory area and then maybe it's up the entire spring. There's a predictable pattern It's usually first and second metatarsal the lateral calf area Which is the tibialis posterior and then the iliotibial band the gluteus medius and that's the typical pronation pattern Okay, so you have inflammation there and until you move the inflammation out the pattern remains because the brain decides If they're still getting signals from the tissue that it's inflamed those muscle that muscle tension remains So if you want to just putts around with these rolling these rollers to roll out the iliotibial band day after day It's there's a hole in the roof and you put a bucket underneath it It's not how it works and if you're a PT you're a moron.
Okay, get it straight figure it out It's not it doesn't work like that. It'll never work. You could do 1,850 foam rollers across the tfl and you're just wasting time you have to reset the foot so that it can Get the full impact all through all 33 joints and then you have to rebuild the spring suspension system Which is the tibialis posterior? No, yeah, tibialis posterior anterior anterior and the pronial muscles this link shot You have to build a slingshot.
Why is it the slingshot doesn't work after we get older? Like when we're kids we run around barefoot all day long. We never have a problem when we're like 32 We have this over pronation. We have to like shore everything up and you know we need an orthotic And braces and it's what I used to call barefoot to bedroom.
Okay, I can't figure out how to restore it So let's put a brace under it orthotic And charge you 400 for that and that will jam the spring from the bottom And we got the leather from the foot jamming it from the top and the longer you wear that the stiffer your spring becomes and also by the way If you don't get if the arch doesn't descend to stretch these spring suspension system tendons There's no adaptation so they get weaker by the day And then who argues with me people who manufacture orthotics We can go head to head on this but then when I remember I was in this forum and I this guy was banging on me I was it was laughable. There was a lot of people watching this conversation I can't remember what happened, but I said one thing that he couldn't refute It was like the end of the argument and he got so pissed off that He screamed and called me every name of the book and then he disappeared that was it. It was done finished Okay, like I said before you want to put a brace on a kid because he doesn't have strong bat muscles You want to put up race underneath the arch like the natural god gave us the arch for spring system to be efficient runners Or do you want to restore it? So the way you do it is with the zigzag runs Of course, you can put a A cough on the foot and do low pulley exercises with inversion, eversion, supination pronation movements to build The muscle up and the tendon will get stronger at through adaptation.
Wolf's law Uh, but you've got to get out there and start running now If you want to create an adaptation process for being able to run barefoot You have to understand that as you for instance if we do a proper analysis of the kinema or the bradhi spring system the lower leg The first video comes from equal weight on both feet And so we're looking at impact speeds and how much force is going through the actual lower body So we would stand with both weight on both feet So if you wait 200 makes it easier for the math You've got 100 pounds on the left and 100 on the right When we lift the foot off the ground and you have all the weight on one foot now you have 200 pounds on one side and zero on the other So then you can put a camera on that patient to look straight up the middle to see if the foot pronates just from lifting the foot off the ground To determine if the tibialis posterior muscle and the spring suspension system Slingshot is able to keep the legs straight and not and maintain the foot posture during that amount So you've got 200 pounds when you walk it's 1.25 times bodyweight So it'd be like 250 is the impact through the spring system when you're walking so when you're doing a gate analysis and somebody's walking It's 250 pounds of force through the limb and through the spring Now when you go to running there's estimates of three to four to five times bodyweight So it'd be like three would be 600 four would be 800 and nine hundred ten thousand pounds And in between there In between walking speed which is 1.25 and three is as we start working down the dumbbell rack I say if you want to go from 40 pounds to 50 pounds, that would be safe and prudent You don't go from 40 on the dumbbell rack to 80 pounds and you wouldn't go from walking speed when you're trying to build a strong Spring suspension system to pull out sprinting you would start by increasing speed And increasing the adaptation of the tendons because that's really what is creating the spring not the muscles Okay, the Japanese did a study where they put a Ultrasound on the calf and watch walking and running and what they found was when you transition the weight across the limb The calf muscle remained the same length. Now. How could that be because you're landing That's absorbing an impact and transitioning weight across the limb and there's the push off How could that be like how could the tendon how could the muscle be the same length and really what the muscle is doing as we're changing from speed Is it's actually tuning the tension on the tendon and the tendon is stretching creating the differences in the speeds and impacts that you have to absorb Rather than the muscle pushing because that these impacts at high speeds are so fast that it's quicker than muscles can actually contract How could it possible be that people think that the calf muscle contracts and pushes you forward during running? That's not possible So what I see is if I'm going to step off a curb The muscle knows for some reason Exactly how much tension to put on my calf muscle to absorb that landing and then it changes the tension on the calf muscle to tune the tendons for walking speed Jogging speed and running speed and it goes like jogging is what we call a compliant spring And sprinting would be a stiff spring where you're more ricocheting off the ground like a super ball and that muscle tension on the actual tendons Is much is stronger because the tendons have a tighter like a tighter snap to them and when you run It's so crazy like when if you and I were running of course you would beat me because you're the fastest man in the world You had told me at least fast on the second fastest you in the world in my age group I you know what I'll be honest with you.
I have to be careful what I said there I know it's like I used to say that I might be the fastest you in my age group in the world But then I met my now friend Alan Tissenbaum and Alan crushes me Alan is a complete genetic freak who I adore and yeah He beats 35 year olds. He's a machine. Yeah The so when you're when you're increasing speed, let's say for instance you and I are jogging I'm just out for a run and I just want to just give you some crap and I say hey steven I'll race you to the end of the block. Okay.
Immediately what happens to us is we get this new facial expression We're gonna I'm gonna beat him and the face tightens up Okay, the face and then the upper body and the lower body it just starts to it starts to stiffen And we're gonna go from this job thing which is this compliant spring and then all of a sudden We're gonna stiffen it and our face is gonna change and all of our muscles start to stiffen Which is the tuning the tuning of the spring system to create the ricochet effect Which is the stiff spring rather the compliance spring so that we can get speed out of the spring system versus You have two things you have the speed which also makes you more vulnerable to injury and then the compliant Which is where you get a deeper loading of the spring which makes it more injury resistant If you're like one part of the of that story out though if you said how race you're gonna block the first thing What happened is I would say for a hundred bucks It's different that I do the opposite when I'm at track meets invariably there'll be some guy who's twice my size who just looks I mean very intently and says good luck man and I go hey There's no prize money involved. I just want you to have a good time get to the end of the race still be healthy I know you by the way, I totally want to kick your ass And I do I do that because it's like the unspoken truth. We're super competitive But there's no bonus points for doing it and let's have a good time and admit that we're each trying to beat each other So the you said something I want to back up to I know this is gonna sound silly because people will have put it Can figure it out without confirmation, but I want you to do the confirmation So we're talking about increasing the strength of the tendons by putting them at a load you mentioned two things One obviously just going from jogging slowly building up speed because that over time will create these adaptations Another thing you mentioned is there's two other things you mentioned I'll do them one at a time. One of the others was zigzag run and I know it's exactly what it sounds like But do me a favor, please describe that for people Well, people think that zigzag run is where Cut to the right and then plant the foot and then cut use the planted foot to cut to the left and then plant the foot and you back and forth But in reality a zigzag run to me would be where you have to lie it on the rope Okay, and what you're doing is what you have to do is you have to stay off the heel.
Okay, so the way you do that effectively is that the head and the upper body Are thrown into the direction that you're changing if i'm running If i'm running down the path and I want to cut to the left What i'm going to do is what michael jordan used to do in all these great athletes You've got you got a choice of planting and pushing off Or what you can do is ease much easier to stay on the forefoot as well Is that you throw your head in the direction that you're going and then because the head and the upper body is ahead of the spring You're automatically on the forefoot. You're automatically on the spring system and the foot will not the muscles won't tighten up They're just going to bounce the body in the direction that the mass is traveling. So there's no tension moving you there You're just using like you're in a controlled fall state You're using that controlled fall to keep the tendons from tightening While they're actually absorbing this impact force through these tendons and adapting without tightening the muscles more than they have to Just to maintain the tension on the spring to get the safe impact through the spring to that direction So then if you're going to the left, you just throw your body to the right and then your body like Turns to the right with the head and the shoulders leading And the foot remains behind the mass The body is ahead of the spring so that you're always on the forefoot and that's called the controlled fall And that's why athletes when they load up in the blocks they're they're low on low to the ground They're already falling and you see also this is crazy that's that lately it's happening where There's a really tight race and I seen with a couple of ladies where it was a very important race and They were neck and the girl just thought I'm going to fall over the finish line and when she did she beat the other girl But she was behind her but when you fall forward you have gravity pulling you and the spring energy speed at the same time It adds speed to the body part by simple applying gravity to it So I remember like when I used to run Fast when I wanted to run faster all I had to do is lean forward more to get more of a controlled fall But at the same time not lean forward at the waist and tighten up like that muscle The whole body would be leaning forward at the ankle the whole body would be you know fairly straight and leaning forward at the ankle So that you don't because if you lean if you bend forward at the waist You create a muscle tension within the spring system that creates drag on it and tight tightens it up So that it can't get the maximum spring out of the body spring when you bend forward at the waist when you're trying to get that controlled fall effect You've caught you can't bend forward at the waist And that's where you get maximum spring and not using muscles and that creates the tendon strength And if you want the tendons are where the tendon strength is where the snap comes from in the speed and efficiency because muscles burn energy Want to cramp out at 95 at 95 yards or do you want to get a boost like the spring doesn't get tired tendons don't get tired They're non-contractile element. So who's them you're gonna you're gonna have an advantage there So two things or maybe more than two things one backing up to just use the exact run instruction You gave a good example for what you're gonna want to do to move shift to the left shift to the right So it's not just bouncing from one foot to the other, but you're gonna have it doesn't have to be some particular amount of Strides where you have lean to the right and you're on the right side of that line Then you're throwing your body to the left to get to the other side.
Oh, it is predictable son of a bitch I mean how I and I'll tell you what happens is you get in a rhythm Oh, here's another thing that I think you're not gonna say just do it You're not gonna say and correct me if I'm wrong You're not gonna say get over to the right of the line in three steps then three steps to the left and then five steps It's not gonna be What's gonna happen is that you're gonna go from left to right of the line and you're and it's gonna fall into a group You're not gonna say I'm gonna do three steps or whatever But just as soon as you get as soon as you get to the left side of the line It's time to go to the right side of the line So you're maybe two steps on either side You can't go four or five because if you're jogging on the lake front you'd fall in the lake You know what I mean? It's like drifting The other thing I want to highlight is this is the thing that I do with people when I'm teaching them to run barefoot It's something very similar I go just hopefully we're in a place where there's little kids like two to three Because this is how they move their head is so damn heavy that they lean in one direction together And they try to keep up with their head and they can't and so literally this is what I do with people I go don't rather than being on a line ago Just play with it Just once you feel like you're starting to catch yourself Then go in a different direction Use your head to pull you in a different direction because and don't let yourself catch up And then eventually let them learn to catch up a little bit Because by then they've gotten on their forefoot They've started to and another thing they've started doing started having fun Which is another thing people take this all away too seriously And I always remind people first of all anyone else who's in this park doesn't know you They're far enough away that they will never spot you in Whole Foods They don't know who you are and if you really are having fun They're gonna want to come and join you anyway Where's the downside? This is a crazy thing that happened I have to tell you this story If there's any really great track coaches or athletes out there You've got to hear this, okay? So let's say you're running and you have a pace And you have this your respirations are easy to match up with the speed of your running So you're running you're like And you have this speed and it's pretty much the same, okay?
So what I noticed which is so crazy but it's explainable Is that when I started doing zigzag runs I'd be running straight Let's say I'm running straight like this As soon as I transition to zigzag run I'm like this Same speed And I'm like racking my brain It was so noticeable The respirations slow down Because I was using less oxygen at the same speed Running in zigzag patterns than running in straight paths What in the heck is going on? And what I thought of was that this might be sound crazy But when you do zigzag runs you use a different muscle group When you're coming when you're turning to the left And then as you're going to the right on the zigzag You rest that muscle group And then you use the other muscle group Oh interesting You're resting the other one But they're all providing this enough speed That you're going the same speed But you have slower respirations which means you're using less oxygen And when I would in my bare When I would get up say five o'clock in the morning Kind of get to work, you know, I'm not done I would do a six mile run on the lake on the lake michigan On the concrete path of the of lake michigan from Chicago It would be like from grand avenue or lake point tower where I live And to Fullerton which is like three miles and then back And I would do that in an hour So it would be six miles in an hour barefoot And when I did it zigzag the whole way I remember when I tried to shove my foot into pronation The tendons were so that the slingshot tendons were so strong That if I pushed my foot into pronation It just went it snapped right back into the normal posture Like I couldn't even I was trying to push it into pronation And I couldn't get it to stay It was so strong it just snapped right back into the neutral posture And what's so great about running like that six miles Was three thousand impacts on the left side of the calf And three thousand impacts on the right Which creates this balance of strength within a pronation supination cuff Or we call it the spring suspension system cuff That it equalize it creates an equal amount of strength through the slingshot That allows that pronation supination to be equal And you can't even push your foot into pronation It's so strong And like I said, it's equal And instead of oh, I went in the gym and I did some inversion eversion With the low pulley and a cuff, forget it You don't pick up like a box of cereal with your foot And if you want to know what puts you in the nursing home Go to the elevator and see the line of walkers people with walkers Because like I said before if you want to fight aging You need to go you can't support the body with the arthatic Because the next support is the cane And the next one is the four-pronged walker Then the wheelchair then your bedroom fully supported, okay If you want to go that route, you're going to end up bedroom You want to go the other way, work barefoot You got a story in the very early days when we started the company I've written a blog post commenting on a bit of research Where they had taken these vibrating insults And put them in the feets of in the shoes of older adults Who had poor balance and found that it improved their balance And I said we don't need magic vibrating insults Just take off your shoes and go for a walk And I got an email some time later from a guy, an eight-year-old man Who said I heard about the magic vibrating insults And I was looking for that but I found your blog post instead And since I couldn't even find the magic vibrating insults I thought I'd put your theory to the test And I'd throw away my water You know what, we used to have a big bucket in the office And it was full of canes Oh my god, I swear to god That is great When my dad and I were practicing, we had this The office had wood paneling, that's how far it went back, okay What's so crazy about wood paneling is if you put like a picture up And you hammer it into the wood paneling, it's like over Wood paneling was a fad but we had wood paneling And we had a big bucket that was about two and a half feet high That's where you put your cane And every time we took the person off the cane We said your cane is in two weeks is going in that bucket right there And we had a bucket full of canes People would walk in and go, was that bucket of canes for people when they can't walk They'd give them a cane so that they can walk out? No, where can we take them away from? And they were like, you take their canes away?
What's wrong with you? They need their canes Oh my god, I love it Oh, I got a great story for you, okay So I hear, now I'm gonna talk about this because it's, he's passed away But I heard from Bob Goldman, the guy who started N.A.S.M. The founder of N.A.S.M. The first personal training, uh certification program in the Academy of Ants-A-aging medicine He's my personal friend that Joe Weeder was in a bad way Okay, he had a surgery at Cleveland Clinic for his back And so I wait, we had to do Joe Weeder for people who don't know Joe Joe Weeder had the first muscle magazine in 1939 Joe Weeder started bodybuilding the whole concept of bodybuilding Joe Weeder's first weights were, were sewer caps and train wheels wagon wheels and train wheels with a bar Him and his brother Ben Weeder in Canada would lift weights that were, you know, wagon wheels with a bar And nobody had dumbbells back then, he just lift rocks and it was like the Flintstones, right?
So Joe Weeder started developing barbells and dumbbells And he created this concept of bodybuilding and having symmetry And that was when Charles Atlas was around And that migrated into Muscle and Fitness magazine, Flex and um, shape And there were seven million people that read Joe Weeder's magazine every month And if you got in the cover of Joe Weeder's magazine, you were like a rock star And those were the, and when Arnold was doing so well in Europe Joe Weeder paid to have Arnold come to America He put him in an apartment, gave him a phone And said, you train here, I'll make you into a superstar And the writing's on the wall was eight-time olympia, that was Joe Weeder's event, Mr. Olympia So Joe Weeder was the father of bodybuilding when his books are out there And he was, he was a god, he was a legend, he still is to us that we know him But everybody wanted to know Joe Weeder because then you could get the magazine to get your 15 minutes of fame I got, I was working with the American Powerlifting Federation, I was the doctor for their whole National and World Team and I was at the meet and then Guys from Bodybuilding would come to Powerlifting because that was like a transition These writers would come and they'd say, hey, who are you? What are you doing with these athletes? You're treating them backstage before they're lifting these heavy weights and all that What's this technique you're using with the foot and all that And then I started writing some articles for Muscle and Fitness and then I got a call one day And we didn't have cell phones, somebody named Joe was on the phone Hello Dr.
Stocksen I like your articles, I want to put you on our advisory board for Muscle and Fitness Magazine And I'm like, oh god And I'm like, oh, somebody's pranking me, I'm like, yeah, okay, sounds good Hang on a second Three months later somebody calls me up and said, hey man, you're in Muscle and Fitness Magazine I'm the editorial advisory board which is like this slit that's right on like date month after month for 20 years I'm on the advisory board So I find out that Joe Weeder had the surgery and he's in a wheelchair, he can't walk I said to Bob, I said, Bob, I've got to go help Joe Because he did so much for me, I'm going to go there So Bob said it up, I went out there And he had a bunion on the right side And the right side was where he had the operation, I know he's over pronating because he's twisting off that foot So I said, okay, we had the vibesage, we blasted the muscles and did the human spring approach with the foot and the leg And then the next day he had about 10 Filipinos that were servants, Philippine gentlemen They were really wonderful people, nice people, all Philippine people, usually very nice, they're very good with people And they said, Joe got out of the chair on his own today, I said, is that normal? She's a no, it took all steps, oh good I was fired up, this is after the one day Second day we work again and I had this one girlfriend, her name was Patricia She was a cheerleader for the Seattle Seahawks And Patricia was a Hispanic girl and she was a very curvy, let's call it that, okay So Patricia had all the curves in the right places and she was a sweetheart with this cute mini-moused voice so sweet, nice and wonderful girlfriend lived in Los Angeles and I lived in Chicago, I said, come 20 minutes early so you can, you gotta see this guy He's a legend, I had a lot of respect for him So she comes, sits down, it's like on this bench by the window and he's just being very polite and quiet And I said, Joe, I have to go to the bathroom, so I got up and I'm into the bathroom When I came back, he had gotten off the table, the Filipinos weren't even in the room Okay, he got up off the treatment table, walked all the way across the room without the blocker And he's sitting down on the morning bench thing With his, he got his, my girlfriend's hand, he's holding her hand and he's looking into her eyes Oh, you're so beautiful, you're wonderful and she's giggly and I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe this is happening My girl, 87 years old, I was probably, I was 48 with that and I just, okay, Mr. Wiener, please, let's get back to the treatment now Oh my god, so he got up, so I said, okay, all right then, all right, we'll see what's gonna happen now So when we got done, I knew I had a home run, I had every muscle spasm out of his leg Because I can tell when I push on it, it doesn't hurt anymore and there's no knot there And in two days it was done, I said, no, get up, he got up and I got real close to him like an umpire arguing with a manager in the baseball Like real close to his face like this and I said, all right now you walk across the room like you did 30 minutes ago And there was the two Filipinos, they were sitting on the bed there He turned around, got his face and he took off like in a shot like it was just like walking really fast It was swaying his arms and he was really excited, he turned around, came back through his legs up there I'm like, oh my god, what just happened, I can't believe that just happened and the Filipinos like, Mr. Wait, I saw it down He was walking without his walker for a solid month after that Occasionally he'd have a cane with him, but he was not with, he was walking and so that was one of those thrilling cases I love it There weren't many cases, there's many stories, I could sit here for hours telling stories In lieu of that, you've mentioned a couple times and I said we were gonna talk about the Vibisage Because this is an important piece of equipment, if you will, hard work for some of what you talked about of getting some of this information out of the tissues For working on these points where there is that, that contraction going on as a arguably not necessarily necessary protective measure So why don't we chat about that device?
Okay, when I was growing up about eight years old, my father used to have this vibrating machine called the G5 And when I was eight, it was fascinating, this little, this machine so I use it and then it was rudimentary I was always fascinated with vibration massage, so I kind of worked with the company to help them distribute But then they cut me out of a $40,000, I won't go into it Commission, I said I could sue them or I can start my own company, so I did And I started my own company, I built a better vibration massage machine It was 2007 when I embarked upon that journey It was interesting, our first prototypes would come in boxes with three layers of that crazy Chinese tape and oh my god, we would plug it in And the girl said, okay doctor, it's ready to check out, I had just come in from the cold, go in there, turn it on, it would start on smoking So we went through a lot of prototypes and learned a lot, it was way back And then 2012, we came out with our first machine and it was amazing It was only $1,500, it was $900 cheaper than the competitor It had a longer cord to be able to meander around the table and get to spots without dragging the machine around It had a thicker cable, so it didn't break as often, it was more durable And it was really slick looking and still is, very beautiful machine So then one day, but to be clear, this is mostly for people with clinical practice Yeah, this is for doctors and I sold them all over the world, team doctors name of the company So what happened was, I'm watching online and I'm watching this video of this girl And she's got a guy with this massage gun and she's and he's jabbing an inter-air muscle It's got a golf ball on the end, which is rounded So why would you have a golf ball that has less surface area when you're trying to warm up the body? You don't put a golf ball on there, you put something that's got the biggest surface area possible Am I going to do a massage on you with the tips of my fingers or I'm gonna use my whole hand? It's like that, so it's simple, it's not a big deal And also the parts on these things were so hard, they were hard plastic So I was thinking to myself, look her face, she's cringing and that's a sign of guarding And so we're trying to relax a muscle to get the inflammation out or whatever we're trying to do But we're hitting it with something that's harder than the actual muscle It's got a pointed end so to speak and it's coming from like 16 millimeters away And it's jabbing the muscle, I'm like what in the heck? That can't, nobody is going to take that thing seriously It's so flawed in so many ways that there's no way that thing is going to sell Plus it was really, if you look at the old massage guns and you go back to 2009 Google it up, 2009 massage gun It was a variable speed jigsaw with a golf ball in the end of it Now it's packaged differently to look like a therapeutic device But in reality it does the same thing And I was thinking, wow, I could kill that, I could crush that thing I could crush that with a better mouse trap, a better device I have to actually fund all this stuff with all these inventions and innovations With funds that come from my medical practice So I invested every penny into this new handheld portable and affordable That will be competing with the massage guns And this is the vibe of the massage And the word is the name of it is very important Because what it does is if you have a golf ball And you have a, like the old guy who says I have a pineapple, I have a pen, pineapple pen Okay, so if you have a golf ball and you have your hand Is it, what you think, let's say I'm going to do a massage on you Oh good, but what I'd like to do is take this golf ball And I want to put it in my hand and I want to hit you with it Why don't you out of your mind, don't do that I'm leaving, Claire, please, can I have my money back?
Why would anyone think that would work? And so what I did with my device is I made it duplicate the human hand as close to possible Close as humanly possible And also duplicate the size first So the size of the device is 20 times larger than the biggest applicator pad for the massage gun 20 times bigger, it's 5 inches around Okay, so it gets 20 times more tissue at the same time So when you're doing that, you're actually stimulating more oxygen into more cells Creating more heat and the heat actually liquidates the gel Liquid interstitial fluid that's between the skin and the muscle Faster to get it moving so that lymphatics start moving faster Move the the poison toxins lactic acid and inflammation from the muscle To the drainage points at the armpit and at the and at the growing faster And the second thing about it is that it's got a bow nose edge to it So that you can use it actually massage you can actually turn it on okay Wait while you're doing this You can actually try it really quickly for people So ignoring for the moment the shape of it where it has handles for either you or someone to hold it and press it and move it against you The head of the thing that's actually doing the massage It's like you mentioned about 5 inches in diameter and it's soft And it because the way the edge works if you do want to get something a little more directed You can put it on edge and it still works and feels great It's a completely different feeling than any other massage device you will ever experience And it's the kind of thing that in my experience I've used massage guns and it maybe feels like maybe something happened But you use this for a few minutes on pretty much any part of your body And you get up and oh no something definitely just changed Okay, so what I did was I put a bow nose edge so that it will what you can do is you can what it's going to do first of all The surface of the applicator pad actually is I wanted to duplicate the hand because what we're trying to avoid Is that guarding effect what we want people to do is not oh tight not when we're trying to relax it Because it doesn't feel good We want people to relax into the massage so it can do its job Get into the muscles So what I did was I took a durometer which is what you use in in in plastics in the rubber industry To measure the hardness of materials so that you would take a durometer and you put it into a gummy bear And it would measure 10 shore A that's a kind of scale of one to a hundred And you put it into hard plastic like a hard piece of plastic like this And you're going to have a 90 shore A The massage gun like the massage gun fork and the tamper are 90 shore A, okay And so then what we're going to do is we're going to measure the stiff or the hardness of muscle And then what we did was we measured the hardness of also collaborated or Batch act with other research that's the the softness of skin is 30 shore A and The fluid layer between the skin and the muscle is 30 shore A, okay? So you have a softer Layer that where all the lymphatics are all the lymphatics are directly under the skin I'm talking about 80% of the lymphatics that cleanse muscles and organs of and all the Bacteria and the viruses that affect you like when you get a cut or whatever they go through the lymphatics Ox like carbon dioxide oxygen go through the blood vessels because they have small openings But lymphatics are big pipes that pull bigger molecules like protein molecules and viruses and bacteria that can't enter through the outer covering of the artery And the vein because who wants to get a septicemia blood infection? So there's a protective coating that doesn't allow those larger Particles into the into the into the arteries and veins So what happens is I said, okay, let's make the pad surface the exact hardness of muscle Okay, so I went to a chemical like 25 chemical companies I can tell you that and I said I need This material to measure exactly 50 shore A or 60 shore the exact hardness of muscle Because what it's going to do is if you have a hand and put it on somebody's face You're comfortable because you've felt that before the nervous system doesn't react with guarding If a hand is put on you for a massage like massage could be roughed for it to be soft too soft Non-therapeutic too rough inflammatory so we want it just perfect So we I created the surface of the pad to be the exact softness of human muscle So essentially what it does, Steven, is it will sink through it will sink through the soft layer the skin and the lymphatic layer And it will lay right on the surface of the muscle and create a vibrapump, which is low amplitude When it pumps down on the muscle it squeezes the lymphatic inflammation and lactic acid and Cellular debris and other toxins from the muscle when we do deep tissue we call it pressure point to the muscle What do you think happens?
They make up all these like neurological reflexes or whatnot No, please simplify this You are pushing the inflammation out of this spongy thing called the muscle And then when it gets into the fluid space around it called the interstitial fluid space If you leave it there doing just a deep tissue treatment or massage it'll go right back into the muscle Okay, it would be cleaning like something out of a lake and leaving it on the shore Why if it rains it goes right back in the laky bone head take it and put it in a truck and take it as far away from the lake as possible Okay, what we're going to do after the deep tissue we push the inflammation out of the muscle with the pressure Is we're going to sweep it away Through the lymphatics in the direction of the drainage point. Okay, what happens with infections is it goes through this lymphatic Hyping from let's say the hand you have an infection in your hand or inflammation or whatever it is Cellular to be it's going to go from the hand Through these pipes between the skin and the muscle in the center to fluid into the armpit where the lympho time The lymph nodes have these like killer cells that will kill the infection and the reason why you kill the infection Essentially what it does is it sterilizes this fluid for you the lymph nodes and that amazing That's why our lymph nodes gets swollen when you're infected like your mom check your lymph nodes Let me check your glands, but they're swollen because they're working. Okay, so they're cleansing the body of all the crud the lymph system Okay, and you know that three and a half quarts of lymph fluid Are drained through the lymph system per day Three and a half almost a gallon of lymph goes through this lymph system cleansing the surface of the muscle the organs the intestines And going through this cleansing and sterilizing system And then it's right here at the base of the neck It works its way through these smaller than bigger pipes and bigger into the biggest one Which is the long thoracic duct and that goes to where your jugular vein meets the vein from the arm like that triangle And it inserts there and all that lymphatic fluid goes into that vein And then it takes it through the heart back through the aorta and then it rolls into it flows into the two kidneys and the kidneys urinated out for you So is cleansing system now? I always ask this question Do you want to get better fast or slow?
Fast okay good good. Do you want to get better really fast? If you want to get better fast you'll come in every day Every day. Do you want to get better faster slow?
Okay? I'll see you every day Do you want to get better really fast? Yes. Okay, Anthony Field out from the wiggles 2002 I'm going to treat you all day like eight hours Yeah, yeah Next day is chronic pain clinical depression suicidal.
I'm going to treat you all day to day to do that vibisage D tissue vibisage you tissue rinse and repeat clean the tissue rinse it out push it to the lymphatics urinated out Take a glass of water do it again and cleansing because you have this powerful tool that actually it pumps in the oxygen When you push it down and or actually it pushes the inflammation lactic acid out and slowly to breathe When it vibraphumbs down when it pulls back It's similar to taking if you take a sponge full of ink and you take your hand and you stick it into an aquarium And it's fresh water in the aquarium when you squeeze the sponge out You can see the ink coming into the aquarium water when you let go of it It sucks the clean aquarium water into the sponge How about that or if you put a sponge under running water and you squeeze it release it squeeze it release it release it release it Five or six of those it's clean you put it on the counter If you could do the same thing with the muscle like we do deep tissue it pushes the inflammation out of the muscle Don't think of these neurologic reflexes keep it simple. Okay, and then it's an interstitial fluid layer Okay. Now we use the vibraphump. We push it out then when we release it It's sucking all this clean interstitial fluid back into the muscle which hydrates it Very quickly.
You can't see it, but if you slow this down with a slow motion camera It's wobbly, but when it's moving real fast, it means it's cleaning you fast Okay, so the low amplitude what it's doing is pushing the lactic acid inflammation Cellular debris whatever's in the muscle that's not healthy and then when it releases it sucks It draws in the intercleaner a sicher fluid that has the oxygen dissolved into it Because a fish tank has fish in it and you have this bubble thing that's going up through the fish tank And you think that the oxygen is coming from the bubble But the oxygen the bubble just breaks the surface of the fish tank So that the oxygen from the atmosphere can enter the fish tank Just like if you spray water over the surface of the fish tank to keep breaking that surface tension to let the oxygen enter The water and it's dissolved in the water. You can't see it Right the fish pull it out of the dissolved oxygen in the gills and they breathe off of that Cells are like fish Cells they are yeah, they are even No, I get it. It's a great analogy. I get it Yeah, because when the oxygen when the cell comes to the end point of the arterial The oxygen falls off the cell into the interstitial fluid It gets dissolved in that interstitial fluid like it dissolved in a fish tank It flows to the closest cell It pulls it from the interstitial fluid and breathes off of it just like a fish will breathe off of the water in a fish tank Okay, so when you're pumping this interstitial fluid with this vibration with a big applicator pad Oxygen nutrients going in lymph prod coming out keep cleansing Rinse and repeat and then create the flow with the applicator pad massaging towards the lymphatic drainage points You're moving it to the lymphatic drainage points to get the inflammation out so it doesn't go back in and start the whole process over again And you know what's happening now?
You can go to team doctors academy youtube channel Steven I gotta let you know I've been doing this for 20 years I've been taking people with severe chronic pain and getting them out of pain in five to seven days with this special treatment to super wealthy people that want to pay 3,000 a day to have me in their living room like People in the Hamptons and celebrity entertainers that don't have time for three days a week office visits in your neighborhood They're on tour like Anthony Field was a two-day treat then they got rid of his chronic pain in two and a half days I've been doing this for years, but I didn't talk about it because I didn't want to make waves I said the hell with that and if you go to team doctors academy You'll see some testimonials from patients that have the worst chronic pain that you could ever imagine and they're amazing And they've had it for 25 30 years And because we are cleaning that inflammation out so fast with the combination of the deep tissue and the bibosage plow Vibration plow effect Amazing mind blowing how fast they're getting better and here's another thing We just got a call from a big production company in los angeles that wants to do a television show about it We're actually gearing up for the sizzle reel this week. We're we have a girl who's been to 30 doctors got severe chronic pain She's got depression from the high levels of inflammation in her brain And we're gonna do a backstory film and then we're gonna have her come and see me and we're gonna see how quickly we can get out Get her out of pain each day filming her reaction and then we're gonna present it to them for this reality show Well, hey, good luck with that be sadly we could go on forever But we have to wrap this up if for another reason that long story anyway You just hate that for team doctors academy on youtube But if people want to find out more about what you're doing find it more about vibosage tell them where to go You can go to if you want to order a unit of course if you go to team doctors usa.com or team doctors.com I think that team doctors usa.com is fast But as you can see one thing about the viboside kind of such it's got this softness of the human hand It's also got the elasticity of the human hand And so it wraps around the body part like my head I could put it right on my face It keeps you from getting muscles injured and so that's where you can pick up a unit if you want to find out more about If you have severe chronic pain and you'd like to have us look at your case and see what we can do to get you out of pain really quickly You just call text me call me people are like you give out your own phone of it So we'll put that info in the show notes rather than giving out here But we'll put it in the show notes so you can check it out and you can find it and sorry I do I have to run I got a meeting with a bunch of important human beings and so first of all a pleasure to catch up You were part of the original I don't want to put it supporters of what we were doing which is really we're incredibly grateful And of course what zero has become is something way beyond what we ever imagined And I do hope people check out go all the research about the vibosage again Check the show notes and we'll have info on how to reach out to James If you want to deal with whatever issues you have as quickly as you can and just a reminder go to www.jointhemovementmovement.com for previous episodes All the ways you can engage with us on social media if you want to drop me an email with any comments requests people you want to have You think I should talk to you can send me an email at move and move the movement movement.com But most importantly between now and whenever we bumping each other again go out have fun and live life feet first