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EPISODE · Jul 10, 2026 · 30 MIN

Episode 21: Low and Slow: Communication Lessons from a Hostage Negotiator -Guest Don Fieselman

from Blue Leader Nation Podcast · host Edward Pallas

Episode 21: Low and Slow: Communication Lessons from a Crisis NegotiatorIf you think command presence means getting louder, this conversation may change your mind.In this episode of the Blue Leader Nation Podcast, Ed sits down with Don “Woody” Fieselman, a negotiation coach with The Black Swan Group, former Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department crisis negotiation team leader, and active cold case homicide investigator.Don spent more than 25 years in law enforcement, with much of his career focused on investigations, crisis negotiation, instruction, and team leadership. In this conversation, he brings those experiences into a practical discussion for law enforcement leaders, especially supervisors who need to communicate clearly when emotions are high, stakes are real, and people are not always ready to listen.The big idea: communication is not a soft skill. In law enforcement, it is a survival skill, a leadership skill, and sometimes the difference between escalation and progress.Don explains why tone often matters as much as the words themselves. Under pressure, many leaders get louder, more direct, and more forceful. The problem is that yelling often creates the opposite result. The other person may stop processing the message and start reacting to the emotion behind it.That is where Don’s “low and slow” approach comes in.By lowering your voice, slowing your cadence, taking a breath, and staying curious, you help regulate yourself and the person in front of you. That applies during a crisis call, a difficult counseling session, a conflict with a subordinate, or even a tense conversation with command staff.Ed and Don also talk about the difference between police communication and human communication, why many of us are not as good at listening as we think, and how active listening skills such as labels and mirrors can help leaders build trust before the crisis happens.This episode is packed with practical tools for new supervisors, experienced leaders, crisis negotiators, and anyone who has ever found themselves thinking, “Why are they not hearing what I’m saying?”Maybe the answer is not to say it louder.Maybe the answer is to say it better.In this episode, we discuss:The difference between police communication and human communicationWhy yelling often shuts down thinking instead of creating complianceHow a low and slow tone can calm both the leader and the person being ledWhy leaders need to respond instead of reactThe role of curiosity in emotional self-controlHow listening breaks down when we start forming our reply too earlyWhy leaders should practice listening in everyday conversations, not just during major incidentsHow labels and mirrors can help supervisors build trust and get better informationWhy people often remember how you made them feel more than what you saidHow calm leadership can steady an entire scene, squad, or conversationKey takeaway:The leader who can stay calm, listen deeply, and communicate with control has a major advantage. Not because they are soft. Because they are disciplined. Low and slow is not weakness. It is command presence with the volume turned down.Resources mentioned:The Black Swan GroupNever Split the Difference by Chris Vosshttps://amzn.to/4yaSh6BFight Less, Win More by Derek Gaunt and Jonathan Smithhttps://amzn.to/44iTZ8gEgo, Authority, Failure by Derek Gaunthttps://amzn.to/4p8go1A

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