EPISODE · Jul 23, 2026 · 1H 7M
Episode 267: Utopian/Dystopian Play w/ Matthew Leggatt
from The Deep Dive · host Philip McKenzie
Philip welcomes Matthew Leggatt, author of Play in Utopian and Dystopian Fiction and Wastelands and Wonderlands: Utopias and Dystopias in Film & Literature to the show. In their conversation, they discuss how the way utopia/dystopia is framed in our literature, media and film impact how we see our future possibilities. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: Columbus and Other Cannibals – Jack D. Forbes Matthews’s Drop: “The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas” – Ursula K. Leguin “Ones Who Stay and Fight” – N.K. Jemison The Grasshopper: Games, Life and Utopia – Bernard Suits
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