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EPISODE · Aug 16, 2025 · 24 MIN

Episode 28: Zero Trust Debate - North Star or Buzzword?

from Zero Trust Journey · host Victor Monga

In this episode, we take on a candid debate: is Zero Trust a real strategy or just another layer of marketing? Guest Ken Yao challenges the industry’s favorite buzzword while unpacking what truly matters for building security programs.Guest: Ken Yao (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennethyao)Host: Dr. Victor Monga (https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorvirtual)Highlights:--| Why Ken sees Zero Trust as “Trust but Verify, minus the politeness.”--| The bear-chase analogy: benchmarking against peers instead of chasing perfection.--| Big GRC vs. little gRC—and why compliance alone is never enough.--| The danger of buzzwords overshadowing execution in contracts and programs.--| Why long-term trust, not short-term slogans, should guide strategy.--| Looking ahead: how AI could make security a “solved problem” in the next five years.A rare episode that puts Zero Trust under the microscope, weighing strategy against marketing and forcing us to ask—are we building real security, or just selling stories?Subscribe to our LinkedIn to never miss news, updates, and quizzes to earn digital badges.https://ztjourney.comLinkedIn YouTubeDisclaimer: The views expressed are those of the speakers.

In this episode, we take on a candid debate: is Zero Trust a real strategy or just another layer of marketing? Guest Ken Yao challenges the industry’s favorite buzzword while unpacking what truly matters for building security programs. Guest: Ken Yao (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennethyao) Host: Dr. Victor Monga (https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorvirtual) Highlights: --| Why Ken sees Zero Trust as “Trust but Verify, minus the politeness.” --| The bear-chase analogy: benchmarking against pe...

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