Episode 33: Michelle Payan: Could a Chronic Illness Be the Start of an Awakening?

Join us for an enlightening episode of TMI Talk as Dr. Mary Grimberg delves into the profound topic of spirituality with visionary healthcare leader Michelle Payan.(Previously episode 4 of season 2)  This episode explores the intricate balance between evidence-based medicine, personal intuition, and holistic healing practices.Michelle Payan, CEO of Kairos Therapeutic Retreat and an oncology clinical pharmacist, shares her journey inspired by her grandmother's traditional medicine practices. Together, Dr. Mary and Michelle offer a compelling critique of Western medicine, highlighting its limitations in treating chronic conditions and emphasizing the vital role of practitioner intuition and patient advocacy.Discover the nuances between anxiety and intuition, and hear personal anecdotes about how intuitive insights can lead to critical health interventions. The episode sheds light on "medical gaslighting," encouraging listeners to trust their inner guidance amid potential dismissals by healthcare professionals.Embrace the journey of personal growth through challenges, with candid discussions on managing emotions, facing triggers, and overcoming "dark energy." Michelle Payan presents her vision for a framework to support healing journeys, while Dr. Mary underscores the significance of community support and living authentically.This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to integrate mind, body, and spirit for comprehensive healing, navigate the complexities of chronic illness, and cultivate a supportive, nourishing environment. Tune in to gain insights on balancing professional expertise and personal spirituality in your healing journey.TIME STAMPS00:00 Bridging Science and Spiritual Healing04:29 Holistic Healing Integration06:58 Chronic Illness and Letting Go12:23 Understanding Intuition vs. Anxiety14:33 Meditation Clears Mind's Ripples18:36 Exploring Nontraditional Healthcare Approaches21:08 Healing Through Mind-Body Techniques25:32 Identifying Energy Drains27:46 Overcoming Trauma and Starting Anew31:20 Holistic Healing and Self-Integration35:14 Understanding Inner Intuition and Healing38:43 Healthy Expression of Emotions40:44 "Embracing Emotions, Resisting Darkness"44:40 Holistic Healing and Intuition Journey46:34 TMI Talk with Dr. MaryYou can learn more about Michelle's work below:https://www.kairoshealth.org/Want support for perimenopause that goes beyond hormones?Whether you (or your clients) are taking HRT but still having symptoms, not ready for it, or can’t tolerate it...there’s more we can do.I’ll be sharing practical tools from a movement and rehab perspective, focusing on the nervous system, fascia, lymph, viscera, and musculoskeletal system.If you want updates on workshops, resources, and strategies to support this phase of life more fully, would love you to join my email list.Subscribe to my email list hereI’ll see you in 2 weeks!PS:If you are interested in being a guest on the show, please fill out the form here.