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Episode 403: Moving Toward a Biologically Based Description of MS with Dr. Bruce Bebo, Dr. Daniel Ontaneda, and Kathy Smith

from RealTalk MS · host Jon Strum with Dr. Bruce Bebo, Dr. Daniel Ontaneda, and Kathy Smith

Last week, the National Multiple Sclerosis Society and the European Committee for Treatment and Research in Multiple Sclerosis convened a meeting in Dublin, Ireland, to dive deeper into what a new framework for describing MS might look like.   There's still a tremendous amount of work to be done here. But, considering that whatever language is eventually adopted will affect every person living with MS, I want to keep you fully informed on this important work. So I'm devoting this entire episode of the podcast to sharing conversations I had with three of the attendees at the meeting in Dublin.    First, you'll hear from Dr. Bruce Bebo, the National MS Society's Executive Vice President of Research. Then, you'll hear from Dr. Daniel Ontaneda, a neurologist specializing in MS at the Cleveland Clinic, and, finally, you'll hear from Kathy Smith, who's lived with MS for the past 20 years.   As you listen to these conversations, I think you'll hear three slightly different perspectives, but you'll also hear some of the broad concepts and ideas around which there was a high level of agreement at our meeting. We have a lot to talk about! Are you ready for RealTalk MS??! This Week: A meeting to discuss moving to a biologically based description of MS  :22 Dr. Bruce Bebo discusses how a new framework for describing MS could impact MS research and people living with MS  3:45 Dr. Daniel Ontaneda describes some of the shortcomings of the current MS course descriptors and discusses how a new framework for describing MS could impact   people living with MS  17:34 Kathy Smith explains how current MS course descriptors fail to fully capture her experience as someone living with MS, and explains how new course descriptors could benefit people living with MS  26:24 What's next in the work to develop new course descriptors for MS  35:20 Share this episode  35:44 Have you downloaded the free RealTalk MS app?  36:03 SHARE THIS EPISODE OF REALTALK MS Just copy this link & paste it into your text or email: https://realtalkms.com/403 ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION I've always thought about the RealTalk MS podcast as a conversation. And this is your opportunity to join the conversation by sharing your feedback, questions, and suggestions for topics that we can discuss in future podcast episodes. Please shoot me an email or call the RealTalk MS Listener Hotline and share your thoughts! Email: [email protected] Phone: (310) 526-2283 And don't forget to join us in the RealTalk MS Facebook group! LINKS If your podcast app doesn't allow you to click on these links, you'll find them in the show notes in the RealTalk MS app or at www.RealTalkMS.com RealTalk MS Episode 279: A New Framework for Researching, Diagnosing, and Treating MS with Professor Tanja Kuhlmann https://realtalkms.com/279 RealTalk MS Episode 280: How the Proposed Framework for Diagnosing and Treating MS Will Affect You with Dr. Tim Coetzee https://realtalkms.com/280 Join the RealTalk MS Facebook Group https://facebook.com/groups/realtalkms Download the RealTalk MS App for iOS Devices https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/realtalk-ms/id1436917200 Download the RealTalk MS App for Android Deviceshttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tv.wizzard.android.realtalk Give RealTalk MS a rating and review http://www.realtalkms.com/review Follow RealTalk MS on Twitter, @RealTalkMS_jon, and subscribe to our newsletter at our website, RealTalkMS.com. RealTalk MS Episode 403 Guests: Dr. Bruce Bebo, Dr. Daniel Ontaneda, Kathy Smith Privacy Policy

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