Episode 56 | Amanda Rae: Inside the Cult That Used Kids as Income Sources

Support me by reading my latest substack here: https://jadenjeffs.substack.com/p/the-red-cliffs-a-12-year-old-bride?r=4v30mcJaden Jeffs (ex-FLDS) and Amanda Rae (ex-Kingston/“the Order”) discuss how their groups used control, forced labor, and shame to suppress individuality, empathy, and mental health, including dissociation, overanalyzing, and fear of “losing your mind.” They compare polygamy and incest normalization, describe how leaving can make early relationships unhealthy, and talk about reconnecting with the body through yoga, neurofeedback, and somatic healing. Amanda explains Kingston financial practices such as underage kids paying rent, pooled family accounts, and leadership control of members’ money, plus alleged fraud and “bleeding the beast” tactics to take government funds. They explore how denial and inability to process extreme abuse lets systems persist, reference Epstein-related discourse, and debate whether billionaires can have empathy and how power avoids accountability.00:51 Podcast Intro and Guests01:24 Healing After Cult Life03:26 Overthinking and Neurofeedback05:52 Dissociation and Reclaiming Self08:04 Incest Normalized in Groups10:38 Dating After Leaving12:37 Cults Outside the Cult15:34 Finding Home After Exit17:42 Body Shame and Somatic Work20:30 Men and Emotional Repression23:55 Cruelty Learned in Childhood30:21 Money Control and Slave Labor32:06 Kingston Economy and Fraud42:14 Power, Greed, and No Empathy46:48 Favoritism and Control47:20 Defining Religious Psychosis49:02 Schizophrenia in a Bubble50:39 Pedestals and Cult Loyalty55:21 Depression as Sin58:00 Neglect and Disability Stories59:51 Mormon Roots and FLDS History01:05:16 Money Systems and Cult Economics01:11:01 Misunderstanding the Order01:14:07 Epstein Files and Reality Shock01:20:25 Can Power Be Stopped01:22:20 Billionaires and Corruption01:27:54 Playing Dirty to Win01:29:38 Community and Closing Thanks👇**SHOP MERCH HERE FROM JADEN**[fromjaden.com](http://fromjaden.com)👇 **FOLLOW + SUPPORT THE PODCAST**Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3GHUWDyJ5ZJ0QzVu8EihBH?si=hpDUxgqMR9CIkwei0Ghiew🎧 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jaden-jeffs-podcast/id1795576157✉️ Newsletter (Substack): https://jadenjeffs.substack.com/👇 **MY Website**JadenJeffs.com👇 **SOCIALS**Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realjadenjeffs?igsh=cm9ybmY1dzk1dmNp&utm_source=qrTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jadenjeffs100?_r=1&_t=ZP-91rDt1rkLz5Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/1BtYdgFoS5/?mibextid=wwXIfr👇 **WATCH NEXT**➡️ Most Popular Videos: https://youtu.be/I-gZtaxMv9whttps://youtu.be/3WIYe15Ostshttps://youtu.be/rNKg83fMuN4➡️ Podcast Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLk3w3VkHlWzRgsNC_wNeOBxa0AEBnpsCz&si=izu5YMpxghxqO13m👇 **BUSINESS**📩 Contact: [email protected] me a Coffee via Venmo ❤️ https://venmo.com/u/fitoj