Episode 87: Johnny Dzubak from The Art of Charm on Growth and Opportunity

For Johnny's third time on the show, I thought it would be fun to talk about interests and hobbies that keep us occupied during all of our down time these days. Our conversation was wide ranging and addressed: individuality, chasing success, values, antifragility, pivoting away from perfectionism, how and why to overcome society's focus on apathy, and much more! We both agree that now is a great time to learn and grow, and share the viewpoint that incremental improvement can carry you a vast distance. Enjoy! I posted the Man in the Arena quote we talked about on my Instagram a while back: https://www.instagram.com/p/B0TOrHJD-9j/