Episode 97: How Artists Build Real Fans In China (Platforms, Strategy & What Actually Works)

China can look like the biggest opportunity in music and the easiest place to get lost. I sit down with Jonathan Heeter, who runs Middle8, an outsourced China division for Western labels and artists, to translate what actually works on the ground and what Western playbooks get wrong.We map the Chinese music streaming landscape through Tencent’s QQ Music ecosystem and NetEase Cloud Music, then dig into why discovery algorithms can feel more sophisticated while staying stubbornly opaque. The real unlock is measurement: when public streaming data is limited, engagement becomes the signal. Jonathan explains why comments on tracks matter, what “memetic behaviour” looks like across Chinese platforms, and how that turns into measurable fandom you can take to promoters and brands.From there we move into monetisation and deal structure. China’s music business often operates holistically, optimising total revenue across streaming, touring, brand partnerships and IP, rather than treating each income stream as a silo. We also get practical about sync licensing in China, why buyouts are common, and why commissioned brand integrations can be far more lucrative than chasing back-end pennies. Finally, we cover must-know platforms for music marketing in China, including Red Note (Xiaohongshu), WeChat, Bilibili and Weibo, plus the realities of expensive paid media and real-name verification rules.If you’re an artist, manager, label or publisher building a China strategy, this is your roadmap. Subscribe for more music business insight, share this with someone planning an international campaign, and leave a review with the one China question you still want answered.https://middle8.agencyReach out to me ! Support the showEnjoyed this episode? Subscribe to The Music Business Buddy Brief for weekly insights on the future of the music industry, AI, artist development, rights and the creator economy. The podcast explains what's happening. The newsletter explains why it matters.Join The Music Business Buddy Brief for exclusive weekly insights on the future of the music industry.Subscribe: https://themusicbusinessbuddy.beehiiv.comWebsiteswww.jonnyamos.comhttps://themusicbusinessbuddy.buzzsprout.comInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/themusicbusinessbuddypodcast/https://www.instagram.com/jonny_amos/[email protected] Sign Uphttps://themusicbusinessbuddy.beehiiv.com