Skip to content
Fantasy vs Fundamentals: Seth Cogswell on Bubbles, Passive Flows, and What Breaks Next episode artwork

EPISODE · Oct 28, 2025 · 25 MIN

Fantasy vs Fundamentals: Seth Cogswell on Bubbles, Passive Flows, and What Breaks Next

from The Pain Trade Podcast · host Michael A. Gayed, CFA

In this episode of Lead-Lag Live, I sit down with Seth Cogswell, Managing Partner at Running Oak Capital, to unpack the strange market dynamic where low-quality, high-debt companies are outperforming — and why that may be setting up one of the biggest long-term buying opportunities in years. From zombie stocks to the passive investing paradox, Seth breaks down why common-sense investing has vanished from today’s markets — and how his “buy low, sell high” discipline at Running Oak is bringing it back. In this episode: – Why profitable, high-quality companies are lagging speculative names – What the “buying a Lexus for the price of a Camry” moment means for investors – How passive flows have hollowed out the core of the market – Why most portfolios no longer follow the buy-low, sell-high principle – The mission behind Seth’s new educational series Not So Passively Aggressive Lead-Lag Live brings you inside conversations with the financial thinkers who shape markets. Subscribe for interviews that go deeper than the noise. Sign up to The Lead-Lag Report on Substack and get 30% off the annual subscription today by visiting http://theleadlag.report/leadlaglive. Support the show

Episode metadata supplied by the publisher feed · Published Oct 28, 2025

Embed this episode

In this episode of Lead-Lag Live, I sit down with Seth Cogswell, Managing Partner at Running Oak Capital, to unpack the strange market dynamic where low-quality, high-debt companies are outperforming — and why that may be setting up one of the biggest long-term buying opportunities in years. From zombie stocks to the passive investing paradox, Seth breaks down why common-sense investing has vanished from today’s markets — and how his “buy low, sell high” discipline at Running Oak is bringing ...

Distinct summary based on available episode metadata or transcript content.

Ready to play

Fantasy vs Fundamentals: Seth Cogswell on Bubbles, Passive Flows, and What Breaks Next

0:00 25:42

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of The Pain Trade Podcast?

This episode is 25 minutes long.

When was this The Pain Trade Podcast episode published?

This episode was published on October 28, 2025.

Is there a transcript available for this episode?

Yes, a full transcript is available for this episode. You can read the complete transcript on the episode page.

Can I download this The Pain Trade Podcast episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.
URL copied to clipboard!