Fight Less, Win More: Leadership, Strategy, and Negotiation with Jonathan Smith episode artwork

EPISODE · Oct 21, 2025 · 49 MIN

Fight Less, Win More: Leadership, Strategy, and Negotiation with Jonathan Smith

from Connecting With Purpose · host Mark Griffin

In this episode, host Mark Griffin sits down with Jonathan Smith, author, negotiation instructor with the Black Swan Group, and Expert EOS Implementer®, for a powerful founder-first conversation on strategy, negotiation, and leadership at the intersection of purpose and performance. Jonathan has spent his career helping high-achieving founders and CEOs navigate the growth curve without losing themselves in the process. As one of the top EOS Implementers in the world, he's worked with over 150 companies in more than 1,500 sessions, helping leadership teams sharpen strategy, strengthen execution, and align around a shared vision. He's also a negotiation instructor with the Black Swan Group, working alongside former FBI hostage negotiator Chris Voss, and co-author of the upcoming book Fight Less, Win More—available January 2026. From early lessons in resilience to defining moments of self-discovery and service, Jonathan reflects on three pivotal "magic moments"—high school football, his time at JPMorgan, and an experience in Abu Dhabi—that shaped his approach to leadership and life.  — The Catalyst: Recognizing the power of belief—helping others see what's possible when they think it's not. — The Pivot: Learning that failure and feedback are often the same teacher. — The Mission: Realizing that influence begins with empathy—whether in business, negotiation, or life. These moments reflect a purpose rooted in growth, service, and empowering others to lead and communicate more effectively. What You'll Learn: — How to identify and navigate the "Performance Precipice" before burnout sets in — The five levels of listening and how empathy unlocks better outcomes — Practical takeaways from Fight Less, Win More to strengthen leadership and negotiation skills  — How purpose and self-awareness drive sustainable high performance — Why great leaders focus on clarity, connection, and consistent improvement Whether you're a founder, CEO, or team leader, this conversation will challenge how you think about negotiation, purpose, and the kind of leader you want to become. 👉 Learn more about Jonathan Smith and his work: https://staycuriousjbs.com/ 👉 Pre-order his upcoming book, Fight Less, Win More (January 2026):  https://staycuriousjbs.com/fight-less-win-more/ 👉 Subscribe to Connecting with Purpose for more conversations with leaders and entrepreneurs who are shaping the future through clarity, resilience, and purpose: /@connectingwithpurpose-est2021 #ConnectingWithPurpose #JonathanSmith #BlackSwanGroup #FightLessWinMore #ChrisVoss #Negotiation #Leadership #Entrepreneurship #Resilience #PurposeDriven #EOS #Strategy #HighPerformance #FounderLife #TeamDevelopment #PurposeFused #NeverSplitTheDifference

NOW PLAYING

Fight Less, Win More: Leadership, Strategy, and Negotiation with Jonathan Smith

0:00 49:40

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

MG Show MG Show The MG Show, hosted by Jeffrey Pedersen and Shannon Townsend, is a leading alternative media platform dedicated to uncovering the truth behind today’s most pressing political issues. Launched in 2019, the show has grown exponentially, offering unfiltered insights, comprehensive research, and real-time analysis. With a commitment to independent journalism and factual integrity, the MG Show empowers its audience with knowledge and encourages active participation in the political discourse. French Your Way Jessica: Native French teacher founder of French Your Way Boost your French listening skills and test your comprehension with this one of a kind series of podcasts. Get the chance to listen to a real conversation between native speakers talking at normal speed AND customise your learning experience through carefully designed sets of questions (2 levels of difficulty) available for download at www.frenchvoicespodcast.com. All interviews also come with the transcript. French teacher Jessica interviews native speakers of French from around the world who share a bit of their life and passion. Where else would you meet in one same place a French yoga teacher based in Melbourne, a soap manufacturer from Provence, or a couple cycling around the world? That Hoarder: Overcome Compulsive Hoarding That Hoarder Hoarding disorder is stigmatised and people who hoard feel vast amounts of shame. This podcast began life as an audio diary, an anonymous outlet for somebody with this weird condition. That Hoarder speaks about her experiences living with compulsive hoarding, she interviews therapists, academics, researchers, children of hoarders, professional organisers and influencers, and she shares insight and tips for others with the problem. Listened to by people who hoard as well as those who love them and those who work with them, Overcome Compulsive Hoarding with That Hoarder aims to shatter the stigma, share the truth and speak openly and honestly to improve lives. The Small Business Startup School – Business Notes | Financial Literacy | Retail Psychology – For Professionals & Entrepreneurs The Small Business Startup School Inc. Starting or buying a small business? While personal circumstances may vary, business patterns remain timeless. On The Small Business Startup School, we explore strategies, insights, and practical solutions to help entrepreneurs confidently navigate their journey.Hosted by Ola Williams—a retail entrepreneur, fintech founder, and financial coach with over two decades of experience—this podcast marries financial awareness and retail psychology with optimism to deliver actionable takeaways.Join us to learn, grow, and connect as we uncover the keys to business success.Let’s continue to learn together and be encouraged to keep on connecting!

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Connecting With Purpose?

This episode is 49 minutes long.

When was this Connecting With Purpose episode published?

This episode was published on October 21, 2025.

What is this episode about?

In this episode, host Mark Griffin sits down with Jonathan Smith, author, negotiation instructor with the Black Swan Group, and Expert EOS Implementer®, for a powerful founder-first conversation on strategy, negotiation, and leadership at the...

Can I download this Connecting With Purpose episode?

Yes, you can download this episode by clicking the download button on the episode player, or subscribe to the podcast in your preferred podcast app for automatic downloads.
URL copied to clipboard!