First Up - The Podcast, Monday 21 November

On today's First Up pod - We cross to the United States where a special counsel has been appointed to determine whether Donald Trump should face criminal charges; back home public transport operators are in desperate need of more drivers - we talk to an Auckland Transport official about how the weekend's job fair went and we hit the road with the "Michael Shumacher" of bus drivers to find out what the job's like. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!