First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 23 November

On today's First Up pod - there is to be a four day pause in fighting in Gaza, and a hostage exchange - we'll have more on that soon have reaction from the UK; we talk with the 22 year old man riding his e-scooter all the way to Bluff to raise money for men's health through Movember; we ask Carmel Sepuloni what makes a great Deputy PM and we check in with the country's Most Beautiful Large Town. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!