First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 26 January

On today's First Up pod - Germany is to send tanks to Ukraine - we'll have the latest from the UK and Europe; Deputy Prime Minister Carmel Sepuloni joins us for her first interview since being officially sworn in yesterday; new Prime Minister Chris Hipkins spends his first official day in the job in Auckland visiting businesses today.. we speak to one that he visited last year when he was our Police Minister and find out if anything has changed and flies.. you tell us what you're doing to get rid of them and we tell you why they're not going away anytime soon. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!