First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 9 May

On today's First Up pod: a politician has jumped ship in the UK's House of Commons; Sweden has Eurovision fever; James Parr from Trillium Technologies AKA Space James has what we need to know about rocket launches and the future of the International Space Station; we talk to a catering veteran about his concerns with changes to the lunches in schools programme and deputy leader of Labour and rumoured Celebrity Treasure Island contestant Carmel Sepuloni talks politics. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!