First Up - The Podcast, Tuesday 31 January

On today's First Up pod - two polls but very similar results... why do voters now prefer Chris Hipkins over Chris Luxon? National's deputy leader Nicola Willis is with us; floodwaters almost up to the roof, a naked Auckland man saves belongings by stuffing them in a ceiling cavity and a 77 year old pensioner called her housing provider for help in Friday's floods.. first they sent a plumber.. and then suggested jumping on her bed! First Up - Voice of the Nathan!