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EPISODE · May 11, 2026 · 43 MIN

Five Words Every Leader Avoids: Mortality, Loss, Regret, Identity, Perspective

from The ET project · host Wayne Brown

Today, we're flying into San Diego, California, to chat with coach, scholar, pastor, and speaker Reverend Dr. Seth David Clark. Seth has spent over 20 years working where leadership gets complicated. He's the lead pastor of the First Baptist Church of National City, a multicultural and majority refugee congregation in Southern California. He also served as a hospice chaplain during the COVID-19 pandemic, sitting with dying patients and their families, and that work changed the way he thinks about everything. Death matters because life matters. Seth calls this approach morality-aware leadership: the practice of leading with the knowledge that your time is finite, using that knowledge to make better decisions, build stronger teams, and face loss as well as change with greater courage and resilience, and leave something worth leaving. Visit the C4C website to gain full access to the transcript, show notes, and guest links. Coaching 4 Companies

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